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      His handlers told him to sit and wait until it was Donnie’s turn to make them money so that’s what he did.

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      Technically the SCOTUS gave immunity for official acts only.

      Official acts being clearly outlined as up to the sole discretion of…

      wait for it…

      The SCOTUS.

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        They said it was to be determined by a lower court. It was sent back to a lower court and Trump was convicted. But the judge ruled that no penalty should be applied because of the SCOTUS ruling on presidential immmunity and it was up to the DOJ to prosecute. The DOJ is under direct presidential control and by then Trump was in power.

        SCOTUS could have prosecuted Trump directly, but as always, they deliberately slow walked it so the case would disappear. Which is exactly what they are going to do with all the current cases.

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    I wish he could be treated like every other long winded short sighted senior, and be medicated and sat in the reclining bed. He has nothing helpful to add.

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      I wish he could be treated like every other long winded short sighted felon, and be in a prison.

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      I don’t hold Orwell in high regard, but this take seemed too inhumane and idiotic even for him. And it is, he actually never said this.

      It’s takes like this that lead people to conclude that Americans deserved 9/11 for what their government did in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, etc etc up to Iraq in the gulf war. Or that Israelis deserved October 7th for what their government did during the nakba, sabra and shatila, etc etc. Americans did not deserve 9/11, Israelis did not deserve October 7th. They are not complicit in the crimes of their rulers. Especially when you operate in a two party system where both parties are completely and utterly beholden to billionaires.

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        Especially when you operate in a two party system where both parties are completely and utterly beholden to billionaires.

        Whose fault is that? I’d say that is on the shoulders of the American people.

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        I’m just gonna say it. The only reason Biden won was because Trumps response to covid was so abysmal that people were genuinely spooked. Had covid not happened I think Biden would’ve lost. Part of me also thinks we’d be in a better spot rn had Trump won in 2020 since the right wouldn’t have had four years to consolidate and get more extreme.

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          Yeah I agree. It would have been 4 years of BS, but nothing like this. He had 4 years to plan. We would be enjoying a democrat as president today.

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        Biden is also the only person to fail to ensure a coup-leading traitor got prosecuted and thus presided over the fall of US democracy. I’ll go as rough on him as I can for that, thank you very much!

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          So hilarious to come to this discussion a few days later and see every post about this particular failing goes unanswered. Even the ride or die Biden people that seem to still want to die on his hill can’t really handle the how much he fumbled it.

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        He BARELY scraped a victory against the most unpopular incumbent since Ford pardoned Nixon, if not ever. He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage than Hillary did when she lost the EC.

        He ABSOLUTELY does not deserve credit for barely passing the lowest possible bar and then digging a hole under it for Harris to fall into.

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        An option so terrible that being not Trump was not enough to get it to the White House.

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          How was Harris a terrible option?
          Or was it because she is a woman, and because of her color?

          USA got what they deserved.

          Yes Biden was maybe mediocre, but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office? It wasn’t Biden that elected Trump, it was the Americans.
          Blaming Biden for it is idiotic.

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            If he got an AG that would have actually dropped some cases on Trump this whole situation would have been avoided and justice would have been served.

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            Sigh. Gaza genocide? Immigration, including the border wall? Most lethal army in the world? The total lack of commitment to a serious social welfare plan (by election day her promises were all either completely ignored or watered down beyond recognition)? Her disdain for all her voters left of Reagan and especially the massive anti-war faction? Including Republicans in her cabinet? "Nothing comes to mind? I try not to be rude in these interactions, but you should think before you say these things. Harris 2024 was going to accomplish nothing except be an appetizer for Trump 2028, because she had nothing to offer to the people who were hurting and looking for anything resembling help.

            but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office?

            Who do you want to justify their actions to you? It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not; it happened, it was always going to happen and whenever someone tried to prevent it people like you would scream “but fascism” not realizing they’re only helping the fascists.

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              Sigh. Gaza genocide?

              For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump? Trump doesn’t give a shit, and doesn’t even criticize Israel for that. It’s the most moronic argument there is, yet it’s still pushed?!

              It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not

              You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point. Why would you think they are responsible to anybody else for their vote?

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                Democratic flavored genocide wasn’t enough for the Lemmy progressives so they aggressively campaigned for Trump to really ramp things up.

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                For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump?

                Point me to where I said it was.

                You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point.

                Why? i never told anyone to vote for Trump.

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              immigration

              Imagine saying this with a straight face after the events of the past 3 months. Unreal.

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            She was offering 50k tax breaks to small business and 20k down payments for first time home buyers, great on paper. But 70% of Americans work paycheck to paycheck, so they can’t utilize that. And her healthcare for all became healthcare for some became expanding the ACA. So no help for the majority of people.

            And when asked if she’d change anything, she declined. But then suddenly changed her mind and said she’d add a Republican to the cabinet. Further alienating the 70% of people that work paycheck to paycheck and anyone who understand what Republicans are. Can’t forget parading around with good ol Liz too. Really winning with that one.

            When asked the simple question of “Should trans people exist?” Her answer was they should follow the law. Disgusting. Unwilling to acknowledge somes right to exist in hopes of courting centrists. Instead pushing away both sides.

            Her and Biden continued the genocide despite loud outcry from progressives. If progressives are such a tiny a faction that they aren’t worth catering to with policy, then you can’t be mad when you didn’t get their vote. And if you think it’s their fault the Dems lost then you should still be mad at the Dems for alienating them.

            Honestly I agree with you that the US got what it deserved. But not because of its vote, rather because what we’ve become. Your options are continuing the status quo (ya know that one with 70% of people being pay check to pay check) or fascism. There was no right choice for most people. And I find it funny how privileged libs are to think there was.

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        The supreme court made him a king. He had every right and ability to prevent ALL OF THIS, and he just whined his way out of office.

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        Joe could have lit a fire under his AG’s ass and gotten this fuck in jail before he could win the election.

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    On one hand, he’s not wrong.

    On the other hand, he can fuck off. He had internal polling showing him losing in a landslide and he still hung on for far too long afterwards, sabotaging efforts to build a winning campaign by the eventual nominee. Biden is the man who lost the fucking republic through his vanity and hubris.

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      Biden is the guy that was given the biggest stick in history, and then just meekly handed over to one of the worst bullies in history.

      Fuck. Joe. Biden.

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        Yeah, when the SC hands you unlimited power while a fascist dictator is waiting for his second chance at office… You use that fucking power.

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    I sometimes think about what would have happened if Biden stood up to the DNC bosses in 2016 and ran in the primary. He probably couldn’t do much against the Clinton machine, but maybe just enough to make it more competitive. Divide the corporate Dem vote just enough…

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    Centrists: “WHERE IS BIDEN!? WHY ISN’T HE DOING ANYTHING!?”

    Biden: *actively working with DNC on fundraising, speaks at an event which makes headlines

    Centrists: “GO AWAY YOU OLD BASTARD!!!``11~!”

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    It will be destroyed just like the rest of the government. Putin’s agent has been given control of our country by MAGAts and their supporters.

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    No shit, Joe! Your insistence on holding into power when it was clear that’s not what the people wanted enabled this. Your legacy will forever be tarnished by your inability to accept reality before it was too late.

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      Nonetheless, the problem lies in the system. If 1/3 is for, 1/3 is against, and 1/3 don’t vote, there’s something wrong. And there is, and a specific party has been doing voter supression for a decade and more. Why has this been allowed?

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    Whatever dude. Biden can go lick a light socket for all I care. He knew this shit would happen and did absolutely nothing about it for 4 years then when it came time to let Kamala run he fucked her over on his way out and condemned us to this.