The governors have to allow it. The federal government cannot mobilize the military in a state unless the governor of that state allows it. Posse Comitatus, if Trump attempts to send in the military against the governors wishes, we are talking civil war levels of federal vs state’s rights. I hope state militias are ready to defend themselves.
Knowing Texas, Abbott will roll out the red carpet for this. Maybe I need to move to California or Illinois to get a governor that won’t bend over.
Hell, Abbot and Paxton probably called Trump and directly suggested it. Fuck Texas.
What consequences for breaking the laws that enforce rules like those have have been applied so far to this administration?
if the governors don’t allow it. ICE could arrest them per E.O.
ICE would have to battle the governor’s security. ICE doesn’t have the stones to go up against people who aren’t essentially terrified and helpless.
We’ll see what happens with the new yes men in place. However, there was a DoD wide email that went out when he first started snatching people (though some didn’t get it for some reason). It stated:
Think long and hard before assisting other agencies outside the DoD. If your actions are deemed to be against your oath, you could be investigated and actions taken against you. Remember, you serve the constitution of the United States. Not the president.
Wa state has just passed a law stating that other state’s national guard, cannot enter our borders to take any actions. I would bet that that would include military personnel stationed in state.
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$100 he declares martial law in those cities.
guns
If you don’t have a gun, it’s time to get one and learn how to use it.
…also how to carry safely. Don’t be that guy.
Including when to use it. It is a last resort. If you pull a gun on any law enforcement officer, even if fully justified, you will be going to jail at best, and killed on the spot at worst.
This is the part I have a hard time with. I want to defend myself and my family, but pulling a weapon on authorities means you’re gonna die. These ICE/militarized PDs aren’t going to pause a second if they get any excuse to put you down. They might not even bother with the paperwork at this point.
Unless we’re in a “take as many of them with you when you go” situation. But that’s a different conversation than the “organize and call your lawyer” advice I’m seeing in this thread.
So like, it pretty much always makes more sense to flee than to fight.
Guns should be seen as a last resort, not a first.
believe it or not, you’re just as capable of killing them as they are you. train and have confidence. confidence and discipline.
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My great-grandfather was there on D-Day.
A good portion of his descendants are hard Trump supporters and are pro-nationalism and pro-fascism.
Glad he’s not around to see his family literally turn and support the very things he fought against.
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They’ve been further educated by the “internet” and now believe they had the wrong allies.
Oh we all have.
Remember skinheads and how they aren’t seen anymore?
Ok so well You know how sometimes you see those white guys who are incels and get SUPER DUPER into WWII history and then pop out later saying they think hitler ‘had his reasons’ to do what he was doing and start rationalizing genocide because the world ‘isn’t fair to white guys anymore’.
and they have a fascination to end woke cuz they think that’s what took all their privilege over everyone else away. They see being educated about WWII being bad as being ‘woke’. And this all used to be the 12-15 yr olds playing 1942.
Yeah… so they infiltrated the conservative parties in all western countries right now and fighting to bring back facism. Conservatives you’ll notice is a conglomerate now and it’s rife with infighting because you have the old school conservatives that never went this way and it’s been flushed in with these scary beings they don’t want to piss off. That party would decimate if either side leaves too cuz they’d never have this win over the liberals should they divide again. So they are at odds with each other : pwn libs at the cost of constitution or certain demise?
You’ll notice There is a distinct homogeneousness to the conservatives in all countries right now too.
It just so happens to be on the heels of propaganda fake overs on global social platforms such as x and Facebook. Which just so happens to be the exact CEOs that showed up to the inauguration.
Trumpers have outright said they don’t care if he breaks the constitution. They are nazis. They want this.
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Don’t forget the New Guard in Australia, who put on a big show at the opening of the famous Sydney Harbour Bridge
https://jacobin.com/2020/08/fascism-australia-old-guard-anticommunism
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They are GIDDY with appreciation. It’s a saying now with the Trump nuts I work with. ‘‘Hope they send him to El Salvador’’ whenever someone cuts them off. The cruelty is the point. No more being scared or intimidated by brown people, they no longer have human rights!
Omfg that’s messed
did you just get here? yes. cruelty is the point. stop trying to understand. the only thing you need to know is ‘guns’.
Yeah, honestly the US really didn’t want to take sides. A shocking number of Americans supported Hitler. But then the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and that sort of unified the country to fight on the anti-fascism (antifa, for short) side of the war.
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We literally had a common threat facing the world five years ago and humans were not united. I’m pretty sure an asteroid level threat would have similar consequences.
Have you by chance read the comic Watchmen?
A common threat like climate change has not been very effective sadly.
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They did mention 100,000 antifascist protectors outside that day. 5 times the number of the members of the organization. It is something at least.
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James Wheeler-Hill, national secretary of the Bund, opened the night with the statement that “if George Washington were alive today, he would be friends with Adolf Hitler.”[
If Adolf Hitler were alive today, he would be friends with Donald Trump.
And the police, like the little lapdogs they are, will happily stomp on people’s rights for a chance to cosplay war
What did you expect? They’ve been doing exactly that for their whole history.
I thought for a moment he invited the village people to the White House….
Militarize the police
It wasn’t yet? US police has fucking tanks and mraps, it is already militarized, just without the training and restraint
Clearly they need cybertrucks and Hugo Boss uniforms
The afghan refugees can fuck off. Only the terps should have been allowed refuge. And they have to be checked.
Police already have swat teams. Maybe if people obey the law, they won’t have to worry about MRAPs rolling down their streets.
Maybe the civilians should have those tools instead. Cause the citizens are supposed to keep the government in check, not the other way around.
But the left wing citizens are right. We should depend on the government for our safety and provide us with goods and services. They’d never lie to us. Burning down establishments and destroying property will show the right wing citizens to have different beliefs!!
Never vote for another fucking establishment democrat ever again.
They always fucking lie and say they can’t do anything, then a republican comes into office and does EVERYTHING.
Fuck everyone who voted against Bernie in the primaries.
Upset with Democrats for following the rules and blame them when Republicans break the law? We want all parties to follow the rules, not more politicians commiting crime to get their way.
Rules? The democrats talk about having their hands tied and they can’t do shit, and only float ideas around. Ideas that never materialize. The Republicans then claim the dems are dictators and do as they please and all the chaos is from their ideas that were never implemented. You know the green new deal and defund the police? Nothing of the green new deal ever happened, but the Republicans acted as if everything was fully enact. And police funding actually soared during their administrations, but Republicans act like all police forces were gutted (remember the cowardly police action at Uvalde? They claim it was the police defunding that caused it when the Uvalde PD’s funding was never touched).
I sometimes wished we lived in the fantasy world Republican propagandists say we live in. If we did, ironically none of the fascists we see online or on TV would be around since they would all be conveniently ‘disappeared’.
Because most (not all) of the Democrats are trying to govern, but most (not all) of the Republicans are trying to take advantage of the system.
The problem (as I see it) is that more money is being poured into the Republican party from many angles. They have reinforced think tanks, special interest groups, media platforms, billionaires, etc where they profiteer off of winning. The Democrats have some of that, but woefully behind.
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Oh you sweet summer child.
Welcome to the police state, y’all
not a person of color to be seen for miles and miles of this fucking picture. until later when these pale pink fucks are turned loose against anyone not them.
easily led shit bird white christian dog shit eating idiots allowed this while swearing they’d never allow it to happen.
My first reaction when seeing the pic: “look at all them rednecks!”
Lookit all them black hats!
lol. that one christian downvoted you.
fuck you christians. we’re coming for you once this shit is over.
Absolutely disgraceful. Y’all are cooked.
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A second order further militarizes local police departments, while providing legal resources to officers accused of abuses; it also seeks to undo federal consent decrees for departments that have committed civil rights abuses and seeks to punish local officials who “unlawfully prohibit law enforcement officers from carrying out duties.”
That’s not militarization, it’s promoting lawlessness and removing any remaining accountability.
Have you not wondered why they keep trying to get the military involved? It’s because they think the military is above the law and can just shoot anyone and do what they want.
Seattle PD literally had to be partially taken over by the federal government because it was so corrupt and would not curb its officers… this is going to be VERY problematic in Seattle and surrounding areas.
By definition the federal government will return Seattle PD back into what it was, but with federal backing and technical support.
I’m in a smaller city and even our local PD has two apcs. This is a nightmare.
In all honesty if they have to APCs then they have one APC maybe half an APC, those things are designed with military logistics in mind so their parts are easy to replace if not particularly robust.
