First-person accounts of the attack and ISIS-style drive-through-a-crowd attack that ICE carried out can be found here:

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    4 months ago

    It’s important to remember that the regime does not and will not have a superweapon it can use without severe consequences.

    It’s also important to remember that the agencies showing up to harm and intimidate vulnerable and disenfranchised populations are cowards and generally unintelligent.

    Protests are good. It gives them something to get angry about. The angrier they get, the dumber they act. They want violence. They want retaliation. The longer they don’t suffer casualties, the sooner they start making mistakes that cause them to weaken themselves.

    Be an obstruction. Ruin their equipment. Broadcast their names and faces. Shame them.

    If they resort to lethal force, it must not be responded to with violent resistance they expect. It must be unexpected resistance. It must make them question their actions. It must wake them up to the problem they have caused.

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      4 months ago

      Mostly with you until the last paragraph:

      If they resort to lethal force, it must not be responded to with violent resistance

      Do not ask others to Martyr themselves. Active self defense is as critical as anything. My advice is to avoid life or death situations as much as possible, but if you find yourself in one do whatever it takes to get out alive.

      It must make them question their actions. It must wake them up to the problem they have caused.

      You cannot force someone to change their mind, opinions, feelings etc. and here their livelihood, social status and self esteem is reliant upon them never changing their mind. You can however prevent those actions that cause harm, by force usually.

      The longer they don’t suffer casualties

      Casualties means killed, injured or otherwise incapacitated. I don’t disagree that injuries and death result in massive backlash of public opinion (it’s also why ICE, cops, etc also don’t immediately resort to lethal measures) but the goal in modern civil conflicts like this one (of both sides) is to maximize casualties of that third category.

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      These police probably still use off the shelf DJI for surveillance. They probably can’t run EW because it’d knock their own drones out of the sky. Someone should check.

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    If you break a spark plug, the pieces can be thrown, and those pieces will shatter car windows with ease

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      They used to. They don’t on vehicles made in roughly the last 8-10 years depending on manufacturer.

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    Americans: we have guns to be sure that… democracy… liberty… constitution… bla-bla-bla.
    Americans at the same time: what can we do? They have sticks and tear gas. And scary masks!

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      This is California, the state with the strictest gun laws in the country on the books. You’re asking civilians with compliant arms to go up against literal military surplus equipment (provided through the 1033 program)?

      Also, nice bot username. Let’s see if you reply to any of the comments.

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        Who said that police will dare to return fire? It is easy when you’re against one negro or a band of drunken bikers in the worst case. But fighting against people? Being in the minority? Nah…

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            4 months ago

            And you’re a coward. Totally deserving of what Trump regime will do with you.

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              If not openly carrying a gun to a protest and risking my life makes me a coward, then yes, I agree. What if I told you there are better ways to disrupt the conservative agenda than flaunting a gun around a cop?

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                There are many ways. Global strike, for example, if you’re a complete pacifist. But you won’t do that either. Because you “have a family to feed”.

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                  Lots of assumptions you’re making, none of which are true, but something tells me that pointing that out to you is useless.

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    Its nice that people want to help their neighbors but it still stands that the main reason California has so many undocumented immigrants rather than them being documented or naturalized is because its better for business to have cheaper labor that doesnt have to follow regulation or safety standards.

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      Right, which is why ICE is currently cracking down and the list of those arrested include mostly C level individuals within those businesses like Stewart and Lynda Resnick, Elon Musk, Sundar Pichai, Doug McMillon, etc. for rampant, willful and contemptuous violations of the law.

      Oh, that’s not at all what’s happening? Huh, seems like you might be starting from a false premise.