• Atemu@lemmy.ml
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      It depends. Expended energy/m is higher but space usage is much lower. For walking you arguably don’t even need a paved path while (non-sport) cycling needs a somewhat even surface and places to store and lock the bike. It’s not nearly as bad as with cars but even with cycling, space usage can become an issue in very densely populated areas; the Dutch don’t build massive bike garages because it’s cool (okay, maybe also a little of that) but because it’s a necessity.

      If it’s near enough to walk, it’s usually better to just walk.

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      More people are happy to walk than bike, and getting hit by a bike is worse than getting walked into by another person

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      The bike’s production has a non-zero carbon footprint. A very small footprint, but one that is there nonetheless. The carbon footprint of walking is negligible in comparison.

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        Shoe production has a non-zero carbon footprint, especially with the vast majority of shoes being a “single use” product (i.e. not resoleable) and with a very limited amount of miles

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        Debatable, and largely depends on a person’s diet and some other factors like how much travel is getting done. If someone is fueling their biking (or walking) by flying in beef from the other side of the world, I think it is pretty safe to say that their carbon footprint is worse than a typical gas car, (because air travel and beef are just that bad) or if not that at least an electric car from renewables and ethically sourced materials. For everything else in between, we’d just be speculating and we’d have to factor in source and type of car fuel, and the source and type of additional food consumed by a cyclist where that “additional food” line lies exactly.

        Controlling for diet, distance and purpose of travel, I think cycling virtually always wins over walking.

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      I unironically want to see bicycle infantry back. Would also be a nice thing to have for the individual soldier, as time in the open is far more dangerous than being hidden or in a fortified position.

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    Is c level a motorcycle or an e-bike? I’ve never seen an icon for an e-bike before, and if it is, I am loving the conciseness of the design. If not, there’s no way a motorcycle is better than a line bus right?

    Just a bonus note from a Dutch guy, the text just below say lekker blijven likken, or: ‘just keep on licking’.

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      It’s probably ebikes, mopeds and motorbikes.
      I’m sure there could be an entire tier list for 2 wheeled vehicles!

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    How is a moped better than a tram?

    Edit: I mean for the environment, I’m sure mopeds are better than trams in other ways - like for doing tricks and making quick runs to the supermarket to get bread and milk

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      Mate you ever rowed a boat? That shit is hard work, it goes below the bike for sure

      Of course, the pedalo manages to combine the worst of both worlds and seems to exist solely as a way to work your quads out without looking like you’re doing a gym session

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        If you have good balance, I think paddle boards are more efficient than a kayak, assuming your not carrying a load. You can put your whole body into the stroke. Kayaking destroys my shoulders

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          I’m definitely biased here since I spent years kayaking and have only gone paddleboarding twice, and I also definitely don’t want to just be all “lol skill issue”, but I think this might be an issue with your (kayak) paddling technique. You should be using your whole torso rather than your arms and shoulders

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            I’m sure you’re right. I only have minimal experience with both.

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          Anecdotal information from my observations only: I have two paddle boards, and a tandem kayak. When we go out, the person(s) in the kayak are always able to go faster with less effort - even if they are solo. Rowboats with oar locks are generally faster still, and none of us can even hope to keep up with one of those Hobie kayaks with the pedal driven mid drive.

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        Yes, both rowboats and canoes are fun and not much work unless you are trying to directly overcome a tide or current.

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    Bikes are actually greener than walking, because if you need to move, they allow you to have a greater daily range for a not much higher footprint (more efficient and 3 times faster).