• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Rather than complaining that both parties are the same, try voting in congressional primaries. They see less than 15% turnout. You know who always votes? Retirees, and they have very different needs than the working class.

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      2 months ago

      Again, there is too much overlap on the Venn Diagram. The source of these problem is the two-party system itself, which means it will never change through voting. We effectively have a democratic voice for things that the parties disagree on, but do not have a voice for anything that both parties agree on.

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          Let me guess: Democrats are completely innocent in our present state of this affairs, right? If we just elect the right Democrats to all three branches of government, they will fix all our problems. Is that it?

          I don’t blame you: I used to think the same. But what does it take to see this is a bipartisan problem? We have President Biden and Bernie Sanders both warning about the oligarchy, and you people think they’re just talking about Republicans. For fucks sake…

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        2 months ago

        So if the two-party system is the problem, how do you think continuing to avoid participation will change something? Try something different and vote in primaries.

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          I’ve endorsed voting five times already in this thread and yet I still get the same response. It’s like Americans think civil engagement begins and ends at voting. Ironically, the point of this post is to call that very line of thinking into question.

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            They’re not even voting. That’s my point. Less than 15% attendance in congressional primaries is the reason nothing changes. We need people to actually vote before we can say voting doesn’t do anything.