Elon Musk says no primates died as a result of Neuralink’s implants. A WIRED investigation now reveals the grisly specifics of their deaths as US authorities have been asked to investigate Musk’s claims.

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    Staff observed that though she was uncomfortable, picking and pulling at her implant until it bled, she would often lie at the foot of her cage and spend time holding hands with her roommate.

    That is just incredibly sad. Those poor animals suffering for that megalomaniacs ego.

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      Although they were allegedly not treated according to laws, these animals suffered so future human trials can be conducted safely, not because of Musks ego.

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        Trials for what? Musk’s implant isn’t new or revolutionary this research has been going on for awhile. But because some egotistical asshole wants to do it people are like wow look at that.

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        Although they were allegedly not treated according to laws, these animals suffered so future human trials can be conducted safely, not because of Musks ego.

        What a noble sacrifice they were physically forced to make, locked away in cages and hidden from the public eye. /s.

        While we don’t know exactly what goes on in the minds of animals, we don’t need some fucked up, transhumanist vanity project to see that animals have pain, fear, trauma and self-preservation responses that are comparable to ours.

        It’s no more ethical to torture animals in the name of bullshit luxury items then it is to torture children, but it’s just as easy to hand wave away that cruelty by claiming “oh their emotions aren’t as complex as ours and maybe all that screaming and crying and clawing at their face is just how they let other children know they’re having a good time”.

        If you’re casually convinced it’s all worth it, you can fucking volunteer. Maybe there’s valuable discoveries to be made by testing what happens when apologism and “allegedly” is forces sideways down someone’s piss hole.

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    Animal 15 began to lose coordination, and staff observed that she would shake uncontrollably when she saw lab workers.

    These are conscious beings. Imagine being trapped in a lab where the next time you wake up you might not have full motor function?

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      Animal 15 began to lose coordination, and staff observed that she would shake uncontrollably when she saw lab workers.

      i hate that i can read this

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        You can always switch your phone to airplane mode.

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      Sentient, maybe some limited level of sapience, but not conscious as far as we understand the term

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          I literally said “as far as we understand the term.” Sentience, sapience, and consciousness are not interchangable terms; they have vastly different meanings.

          We as humans and as we have defined the terms do not label any other species as conscious as we currently understand the term. Consciousness is currently a uniquely human trait. It’s not my decision, it’s just what we know and how we’ve labeled things.

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    He is so fucked over this, animal experimentation is incredibly tightly regulated. primates even more so.

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    Unfortunately as far as I know it is pretty standard for monkeys used to test brain interfaces to eventually get infected because of it and have to be put down.

    I’m not sure whether the same problems are as common in humans; humans are much less likely to e.g. yank on the implant, especially if the reason they have an implant is to work around some kind of paralysis. And humans are allowed drugs that animals are not.

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    It’s like the start of a terrifying science fiction movie where things are about to go horribly, horribly wrong.