• cm0002@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Silencers aren’t actually silent, they’re still quite loud, it’s nothing like in shows and movies

    In real world usage, they’re really only useful for reducing the decibels a bit for hearing protection reasons

    Suppressor is a more apt term for them

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        10 months ago

        Personally, I think suppressor should be the least of illegal things about firearms.

        The majority of the people I know with one have it so they don’t bother their neighbors as much and they have a little extra buffer zone for their earpro.

        I’d much rather it sound like my neighbor is using a large sledgehammer all day than gunshots.

        The masks, lack of clear identification (not “I’m a cop” but actual identifying information), and what looks like 270 rounds of ammo waiting to go for a supposed kidnapping deportation are of FAR greater concern.

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          10 months ago

          you don’t need to strike through “kidnapping” - it is exactly what it is, even if done by ice, as they do it without due process.

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          5 months ago

          Like how I don’t play my trumpet at home without a mute. Do suppressors really mess with accuracy? I just read that, but in a comic book so it could be nonsense.

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            5 months ago

            Well, the ones I have used certainly do, since they blocked the iron sights.

            In general though, it may have an impact on distance targets, but for 20yds and under? Not noticeably.

            Someone who shoots in competitions likely has a much better/thorough/accurate answer than I do, though.

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      10 months ago

      they’re really only useful for reducing the decibels a bit for hearing protection reasons

      Given that a couple decibel is a big range that can mean the difference between permanent damage and no damage at all, I’d call that pretty damn useful!

      But yeah, you’re otherwise absolutely right, of course 😁

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      10 months ago

      If you must shoot where there are non target animals with ears then you should protect their ears by using a suppresser. Non target includes the person holding the gun.

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      10 months ago

      I’ve shot a gun with a silencer. It’s extremely quiet.

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        10 months ago

        It depends on what you shoot, also. A subsonic 22lr will sound like an airgun. A 55gr 5.56 (common to AR-15s) will still be loud as shit from the sonic boom.

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        9 months ago

        Agree. A 9mm with a nice suppressor? All I can hear is the “action” of the gun: Click. Click. Click.

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      10 months ago

      It’s the patent term, not a descriptive term. It is a perfectly viable term as it is the one used for more than 100 years.

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        10 months ago

        I don’t think I’ve ever met a single person using subsonic 556. Subsonic 22LR? Every day. But not 556. 223? Only when hunting deer. Not for social work.

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          10 months ago

          That’s because a subsonic 5.56 has barely more energy than a .22 LR. It probably wouldn’t even cycle the gun without modifications.

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          10 months ago

          If you’re going to be spending money on getting a suppressor and shooting subsonic rounds I think most people will probably go for .300 blackout.

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        10 months ago

        Most rifle rounds depend on speed for their energy.

        A subsonic 5.56 is only going to have 15-20% the muzzle energy of a standard round at best.

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      10 months ago

      the decibels a bit for hearing protection reasons

      I mean, I’ve heard that from groups trying to pass laws to get rid of the tax stamp, but in all honesty everyone I’ve known who has a suppressor only has one because they think they are cool.

      I mean you still have to wear hearing protection with them, especially if you’re at a range where the vast majority of people aren’t using a suppressor.

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        10 months ago

        Right now, the market for them is distorted by the tax stamp. Only a few people bother with the paperwork and fee (even though it’s been highly streamlined in recent years). That means companies producing them have to make up their costs with high prices rather than volume. It’s almost a stealth tax on top of the stated tax.

        That results in only a few well off people getting them. This has little overlap with skill or appreciation for the hobby.

        Drop them from the NFA, and now everyone with a 3D printer can just run one off. Even in traditional manufacturing, you have a much larger customer base, and the company can sell on volume rather than high prices.

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        10 months ago

        The reason we jump to that is because it’s common misconception, and that misconception directly leads people to support bans on suppressors.

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              10 months ago

              I’m not. Nobody has tried claiming they’re silent. Silencer is a very very common term for that attachment, and you know that, but you felt the need to chime anyways.

              If anything, it’s you being unpleasant here, not me.

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                10 months ago

                Explaining that they aren’t silent and just make guns less likely to damage hearing is the most appropriate answer to someone asking why they’re needed.

                Its also reasonable to assume someone asking why they’re needed assumes they’re used similarly to how they’re presented in pop culture

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                  10 months ago

                  Not one person in this entire post has claimed suppressors are silent.

                  Keep being you though.

                  • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned from community
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                    10 months ago

                    You keep repeating this like they were speaking to anything other than the common parlance term? Where did they say they were addressing someone in this post?