Everyone asks this. No. I date frumpy women who are 35+. Who are all looking for a 1950s style relationship, even with all their education, progressive values, etc. They still feel entitled to being stay at home wives. Most of them don’t want kids, they want the ‘option’ of not working though, but they won’t take a lifestyle-decline, which means you need to make twice or more what they do, so they can maintain their lifestyle while they don’t work.
It’s what the ‘market’ has normalized thanks to social media. I make like 50% above median family income in my city… but I am considered and economic ‘failure’, because the ‘minimum’ expectation is like 3-4x median income. And people will argue with about it. Because the ‘bare minimum’ is an upper middle class luxury lifestyle… and if you can’t provide that why are you even tying to date? (drive luxury car, live in luxury housing, go on multiple international trips per year, designer clothes, designer pets, etc) Most don’t want kids because then they can’t have all these ‘nice things’ they want so desperately.
Nobody thinks a modest middle-class life is ‘worthwhile’ anymore. At least where I live. I love my middle-class modest life, but I also grew up poor so it feels rich as hell to me. I have never wanted ‘nice things’, so I can’t relate to them. i have no interest in luxury cars, vacations, or any of that. I’m happy driving my Honda up to the mountains and staying in a B&B for 2 days and going hiking with my rescue dog.
Like I said the last time I met someone who was more ‘modest’ it was 2015… before social media warped everyone’s minds.
every modest outdoorsy lady I meet… is already married. I and since I do a ton of outdoor stuff, I meet them. But none of them are ever single. I have never in my life hate a date through hobby, volunteer, or activity group thing. The women I meet there are almost exclusively married. But I go on dating apps and I get tons of interest from single women doctors, lawyers, etc, who are aspirational gold-diggers, even though I have no gold. And she will lament on the first or second date how ‘poor’ she is, and how she was ‘forced’ to be successful when what she ‘really deserves is to be taken care of’, and when I ask what that looks like she is sitting at home all day eating bon bons and planning $20K trips to Europe, Asia, etc.
You can lecture me all you want. internet people always do, just world fallacy and all that. but in my adult dating experience these ‘nice modest women who want to get married in a courthouse and would like a date at costco’ don’t exist in any abundance, and most that do, are already married. all my friends got married in their early/mid 20s. they haven’t been single for over 20 years at this point. but the ‘single woman who is 30+ who thinks she deserves a guy who makes 500K a year and won’t settle for less’ exist in abundance. And they are miserable because the have everything anyone could ever want and then some and it’s ‘not enough’ for them… and no relationship (or amount of money) will ever fix that.
that first paragraph seems pretty normal, hell wife and i spent 70 with tip at a chicken place last week
the rest though, you’re getting played and it sounds like you know it
are you rich and chasing 10s for fun? cause if you are seriously looking for a life partner it sounds like you need to look somewhere else
Everyone asks this. No. I date frumpy women who are 35+. Who are all looking for a 1950s style relationship, even with all their education, progressive values, etc. They still feel entitled to being stay at home wives. Most of them don’t want kids, they want the ‘option’ of not working though, but they won’t take a lifestyle-decline, which means you need to make twice or more what they do, so they can maintain their lifestyle while they don’t work.
It’s what the ‘market’ has normalized thanks to social media. I make like 50% above median family income in my city… but I am considered and economic ‘failure’, because the ‘minimum’ expectation is like 3-4x median income. And people will argue with about it. Because the ‘bare minimum’ is an upper middle class luxury lifestyle… and if you can’t provide that why are you even tying to date? (drive luxury car, live in luxury housing, go on multiple international trips per year, designer clothes, designer pets, etc) Most don’t want kids because then they can’t have all these ‘nice things’ they want so desperately.
Nobody thinks a modest middle-class life is ‘worthwhile’ anymore. At least where I live. I love my middle-class modest life, but I also grew up poor so it feels rich as hell to me. I have never wanted ‘nice things’, so I can’t relate to them. i have no interest in luxury cars, vacations, or any of that. I’m happy driving my Honda up to the mountains and staying in a B&B for 2 days and going hiking with my rescue dog.
Like I said the last time I met someone who was more ‘modest’ it was 2015… before social media warped everyone’s minds.
every modest outdoorsy lady I meet… is already married. I and since I do a ton of outdoor stuff, I meet them. But none of them are ever single. I have never in my life hate a date through hobby, volunteer, or activity group thing. The women I meet there are almost exclusively married. But I go on dating apps and I get tons of interest from single women doctors, lawyers, etc, who are aspirational gold-diggers, even though I have no gold. And she will lament on the first or second date how ‘poor’ she is, and how she was ‘forced’ to be successful when what she ‘really deserves is to be taken care of’, and when I ask what that looks like she is sitting at home all day eating bon bons and planning $20K trips to Europe, Asia, etc.
You can lecture me all you want. internet people always do, just world fallacy and all that. but in my adult dating experience these ‘nice modest women who want to get married in a courthouse and would like a date at costco’ don’t exist in any abundance, and most that do, are already married. all my friends got married in their early/mid 20s. they haven’t been single for over 20 years at this point. but the ‘single woman who is 30+ who thinks she deserves a guy who makes 500K a year and won’t settle for less’ exist in abundance. And they are miserable because the have everything anyone could ever want and then some and it’s ‘not enough’ for them… and no relationship (or amount of money) will ever fix that.
Yikes, that’s terrifying. Thanks for sharing.