Could you please elaborate? I am Brazilian. Living under Trump certainly sucks acutely, but for people like me outside the Empire core, it seems to me he is doing (through incompetence and dementia) a fine job of accelerating the Empire’s collapse.
Maybe, but I’m not sure if he was the accelerationist of the two candidates. The US was set to collapse under its own weight anyway. The democrats have historically been the more warlike party, we would’ve likely collapsed even faster by picking more fights abroad that we can’t win.
I don’t mean to sound like a dick or fight you on this, and I understand your point of view, but I vehemently disagree. As much as I hate both Trump and Kamala, and as much as both need bullets in their heads, Kamala and the democrats are typically much smarter about at least giving the appearance of objectivity, and human-rights related fluff and posturing, and most Amerikkkans would go along with it way more easily, unlike Trump.
I think many people would be more bendable and willing to suck up to the democrats if Kamala was elected, which would greatly prolong the U.S. empire. Trump is almost on the verge of bringing the empire crashing down, like taking a pickaxe to a dike or a dam. Not to say that Trump himself isn’t intelligent or manipulative, but he’s evil and stupid enough to admit the quiet part out loud too many times.
I am new to communism and may have picked a misleading verb (accelerating the colapse), but I don’t see myself as an accelerationist. I don’t hope the US accelerates its decay into fascism. I want the US to economically collapse ASAP. If it collapses economically before it decays into fascism, the World will be better off. And Trump’s incompetence is doing a fine job at that. Also, I do not think he is overall more inhumane than Kamala. He is probably worse for trans people, but Kamala is just as bad as Trump for many other groups (including Palestinians being genocided), and is even worse for Ukrainians and Russians. Kamala is not democratic, she only has better decorum and acting abilities.
Trump is visibly evil (like Hitler), and pretty bad at administration (worse than Hitler I suppose). Trump is like a very stupid Hitler.
Democratas are competent and cunning like Palpatine.
Dominican Republic and Turkey have experienced fascist movements and politicians, but they’ve never been fascist, afaik; they are bourgeois democracies nowadays with ultra-right factions.
Domincan Republic have a fascist and neoliberal gov’t and are one great US bootlicker in the region. The Domincans rep are literally following the same playbook as their imperialist dad in the treatment of immigrants.
Edit
To illustrate what I mention above, this is one poster in a hospital showing the protocol to hunt Haitians migrants:
Yes, they are, but they were also couped by the United States.
Either way, they are not fascist; I’ve been there. I know how they treat the Haitains. You haven’t seen anything yet compared to the opposition party in the Dominican Republic.
Same with Turkey, which has worse factions than the AKP.
I am new to communism, so take this with a grain of salt.
Here in Brasil, the strongest leftist party is the Workers’ Party. Communist Ian Neves and other communists condemn it as socdem. Yet Ian Neves strongly criticizes Trots who supported Dilma’s unfair impeachment and Lula’s imprisonment. He has also explicitly opposed accelerationism, because it leads to fascism which can make workers’ lives miserable (bad in itself) and effectively crush communist movements. But I do not apply that reasoning to the dispute between the GOP and the “Democrats”.
In Brasil, Lula has grave defects (bourgeois concessions), but he is far better than Bolsonaro or Tarcisio or any other neofascist, and much better even than the old supposedly civilized neoliberals like Fernando Henrique Cardoso.
In the US, would Kamala Harris be considerably better than Trump? She would have far better decorum, of course, but Palestine genocide would probably be just as bad as under Trump (as it was under Biden). She would murder Venezuelans just as mercilessly. She would give even more weapons to Ukraine. She would persecute American dissident students and leftists just as hard. All that with more competence and way more effective theater of pretending to defend democracy and human rights. McCarthyism and imperialism are bipartisan.
The only advantage I see for a Kamala victory would have been less hate and attacks on trans people. A big advantage indeed, but in my opinion that wouldn’t justify defending Kamala. Leftists should vote for a real socialist party, organize, and build mutual aid. I am an ignorant cishet male, so take with grain of salt.
Anyway, you mentioned voting for the PSL (which is praised on Lemmy), so probably we agree on substance, and I only miscommunicated on the previous comment. I don’t see myself as accelerationist.
Okay, we already agree. Also, if Kamala is truly as good as you say, then sure, vote for her if you want. What’s wrong with that? She would’ve disillusioned more liberals like Obama and Biden did. So who cares either way.
Why do you put PSL on a pedestal? I may only vote for them because they’re the lesser evil. There’s nothing praiseworthy about an org with a lot of sex pests and transphobes.
Could you please elaborate? I am Brazilian. Living under Trump certainly sucks acutely, but for people like me outside the Empire core, it seems to me he is doing (through incompetence and dementia) a fine job of accelerating the Empire’s collapse.
Maybe, but I’m not sure if he was the accelerationist of the two candidates. The US was set to collapse under its own weight anyway. The democrats have historically been the more warlike party, we would’ve likely collapsed even faster by picking more fights abroad that we can’t win.
I don’t mean to sound like a dick or fight you on this, and I understand your point of view, but I vehemently disagree. As much as I hate both Trump and Kamala, and as much as both need bullets in their heads, Kamala and the democrats are typically much smarter about at least giving the appearance of objectivity, and human-rights related fluff and posturing, and most Amerikkkans would go along with it way more easily, unlike Trump.
I think many people would be more bendable and willing to suck up to the democrats if Kamala was elected, which would greatly prolong the U.S. empire. Trump is almost on the verge of bringing the empire crashing down, like taking a pickaxe to a dike or a dam. Not to say that Trump himself isn’t intelligent or manipulative, but he’s evil and stupid enough to admit the quiet part out loud too many times.
I’m speaking as a Latino Texan.
I am new to communism and may have picked a misleading verb (accelerating the colapse), but I don’t see myself as an accelerationist. I don’t hope the US accelerates its decay into fascism. I want the US to economically collapse ASAP. If it collapses economically before it decays into fascism, the World will be better off. And Trump’s incompetence is doing a fine job at that. Also, I do not think he is overall more inhumane than Kamala. He is probably worse for trans people, but Kamala is just as bad as Trump for many other groups (including Palestinians being genocided), and is even worse for Ukrainians and Russians. Kamala is not democratic, she only has better decorum and acting abilities.
See my other reply: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/7166978
Accelerationism is bad and the Democrats will accelerate the collapse by pissing off their base further.
Accelerationism leads to fascism.
To the third world, American fascism has been around for a while. Ask Palestine.
This is just American imperialism coming back home
Uh, to the Dominican Republic and Turkey, American fascism hasn’t been around for a while so, no, you’re incorrect.
Imperialism is not fascism.
It’s been fascism since the word was a word.
Dominican Republic and Turkey have experienced fascist movements and politicians, but they’ve never been fascist, afaik; they are bourgeois democracies nowadays with ultra-right factions.
Makan, have you checked how the Dominican Republic treats our fellow haitian comrades?
This is just one example:
Domincan Republic have a fascist and neoliberal gov’t and are one great US bootlicker in the region. The Domincans rep are literally following the same playbook as their imperialist dad in the treatment of immigrants.
Edit
To illustrate what I mention above, this is one poster in a hospital showing the protocol to hunt Haitians migrants:
Yes, they are, but they were also couped by the United States.
Either way, they are not fascist; I’ve been there. I know how they treat the Haitains. You haven’t seen anything yet compared to the opposition party in the Dominican Republic.
Same with Turkey, which has worse factions than the AKP.
I am new to communism, so take this with a grain of salt.
Here in Brasil, the strongest leftist party is the Workers’ Party. Communist Ian Neves and other communists condemn it as socdem. Yet Ian Neves strongly criticizes Trots who supported Dilma’s unfair impeachment and Lula’s imprisonment. He has also explicitly opposed accelerationism, because it leads to fascism which can make workers’ lives miserable (bad in itself) and effectively crush communist movements. But I do not apply that reasoning to the dispute between the GOP and the “Democrats”.
In Brasil, Lula has grave defects (bourgeois concessions), but he is far better than Bolsonaro or Tarcisio or any other neofascist, and much better even than the old supposedly civilized neoliberals like Fernando Henrique Cardoso.
In the US, would Kamala Harris be considerably better than Trump? She would have far better decorum, of course, but Palestine genocide would probably be just as bad as under Trump (as it was under Biden). She would murder Venezuelans just as mercilessly. She would give even more weapons to Ukraine. She would persecute American dissident students and leftists just as hard. All that with more competence and way more effective theater of pretending to defend democracy and human rights. McCarthyism and imperialism are bipartisan.
The only advantage I see for a Kamala victory would have been less hate and attacks on trans people. A big advantage indeed, but in my opinion that wouldn’t justify defending Kamala. Leftists should vote for a real socialist party, organize, and build mutual aid. I am an ignorant cishet male, so take with grain of salt.
Anyway, you mentioned voting for the PSL (which is praised on Lemmy), so probably we agree on substance, and I only miscommunicated on the previous comment. I don’t see myself as accelerationist.
Okay, we already agree. Also, if Kamala is truly as good as you say, then sure, vote for her if you want. What’s wrong with that? She would’ve disillusioned more liberals like Obama and Biden did. So who cares either way.
Why do you put PSL on a pedestal? I may only vote for them because they’re the lesser evil. There’s nothing praiseworthy about an org with a lot of sex pests and transphobes.