My home instance is down so I figured I’d make a piefed account since I recall them defederating from the tankie triad. This doesn’t seem to be the case any more? Any suggestions for such instances?
My home instance is down so I figured I’d make a piefed account since I recall them defederating from the tankie triad. This doesn’t seem to be the case any more? Any suggestions for such instances?
Very fair points and I’ll definitely keep it in mind. I’ve mostly done it to try avoiding unnecessary toxicity but I might revise that in time when life settles down a bit. Appreciate the perspective and your posts I’ve seen around the verse.
Ay, thank you! Yeah like I said it wasn’t trying to say you should need to subject yourself to anything you don’t feel like subjecting yourself to lol. Blocking out stuff simply because you don’t feel like it is sparking any joy is completely allowed I think.
Yeah, I think there’s a delicate balance here. Extremism thrives and tends to get even more extreme in bubbles. So in some ways it is vital that people actually try to make dialogue with them to potentially pull them back or at least keep them from drifting further. But on the other hand, once the extremist bubble is big enough, if you just let them interact with the rest, they can spread a lot of toxocity and do a lot of damage which you also want to avoid.
So I don’t think there’s a clear-cut right choice here. If someone’s up to it, actually making the effort to engage with them could be avery good strategy. But if someone’s too stressed out by that, disengaging is clearly better.
But I think this is where the fediverse model has unique potential to do something good here. Some communities can block, some can engage. Some users can block, some can engange or even flop back and forth. It allows for more dynamic relationships and choices which I think os absolutely vital when there’s no one right choice to deal with a situation/group/person.
Yeah, 100% agree. There is a benefit to free exchange of communication, it is one of the most effective ways of tearing down authoritarian structures, but absolutely at the same time once it’s interfering with your own quiet enjoyment and ability to communicate internally it might be time to shut it out. I actually sometimes just don’t participate at all in the political communities on lemmy.world for exactly that reason; it is often so toxic that it shuts down even the ability for people to have a normal conversation. Such a noisy tide of people will emerge to exercise Lemmy Reading Comprehension and give random hostility that you can’t hear the other calm people. That’s also the issue with Hexbear. That whole event where one of the more permissive instances thought about refederating with them, and they immediately brigaded that very discussion post to hurl abuse at everyone and so the conclusion was “lol never mind,” is a good example.
There’s also an important factor of whether the people in the community you’re talking to are open to change. Lemmy.ml seems obviously to me to be mostly genuine people who are on some level interested in conversation and care about these topics, which is one reason I lean towards keeping engagement with them even if sometimes is a ridiculous conversation. But at the same time, I don’t really fuck with Hexbear or with UniversalMonk much, because it just doesn’t seem that there’s much to be gained. If someone’s whole overarching goal whenever they interact with outsiders is going to be “doing a bit,” then what’s the point. You’re just the cat playing with their little toy-on-a-stick because they’re waving it around, at that point.