• skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 days ago

    All these brainwashed AI-obsessed people should be required to watch I, Robot on loop for a month or two.

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    People who say these things clearly have no experience. I spent an hour today trying to get one of the better programming models to parse a response. I gave it the inputs and expected outputs and it COULD not derive functional code until I told it what the implementation needed to be. If it isn’t cookie-cutter problems then it just can’t predict it’s way through it.

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      It’s like the “bla bla bla, blablabla… therefore God exists”

      Except for CEOS it’s “blablablabla, therefore we can fire all our workers”

      Same shit different day

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      I mean, at a high level it is very much the concept of ICE from Gibson et al back in the day.

      Intrusion Countermeasures Electronics. The idea that you have code that is constantly changing and updating based upon external stimuli. A particularly talented hacker, or AI, can potentially bypass it but it is a very system/mental intensive process and the stronger the ICE, the stronger the tools need to be.

      In the context of AI on both sides? Higher quality models backed by big ass expensive rigs on one side should work for anything short of a state level actor… if your models are good (big ol’ “if” that).

      Which then gets into the idea of Black ICE that is actively antagonistic towards those who are detected as attempting to bypass it. In the books it would fry brains. In the modern day it isn’t overly dissimilar from how so many VPN controlled IPs are just outright blocked from services and there is always the risk of getting banned because your wifi coffee maker is part of a botnet.

      But it is also not hard to imagine a world where a counter-DDOS or hack is run. Or a message is sent to the guy in the basement of the datacenter to go unplug that rack and provide the contact information of whoever was using it.

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        In the context of AI on both sides? Higher quality models backed by big ass expensive rigs on one side should work for anything short of a state level actor… if your models are good (big ol’ “if” that).

        Turns out Harlan Ellison was a goddamn prophet when he wrote I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream.

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          I have no clue how you think these two are related in any way, except for the word “AI” occurring in both.

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            Tbf, every day that goes by is starting to feel more and more like we’re all being being tortured by a psychotic omnipotent AI… With a really boring sense of humor.

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      AI should start breaking code much sooner than it can start fixing it.

      Maybe breaking isn’t even far, because the AI can be wrong 90% of the time and still be successful.

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      A few years back someone made virus that connected to an llm server and kept finding ways to infect computers in the simulated network. I think it was kind of successful. Not viable for a virus though, but an interesting idea non the less

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    Genius strategy:

    • Replace Juniors
    • Old nerds knowing stuff die out
    • Now nobody knows anything about programming and security
    • Everything’s now a battle between LLMs
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      I’ve already had to reverse engineer shitty old spaghetti code written by people who didn’t know what they were doing, so I could fix obscure bugs.

      I can wait until I have to do the same thing for AI generated code.

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      7 days ago

      This is a generalized problem. It’s not only programming. The world faces a critical collapse of expertise if we defer to AI.

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      I’ve already had to reverse engineer shitty old spaghetti code written by people who didn’t know what they were doing, so I could fix obscure bugs.

      I can wait until I have to do the same thing for AI generated code.

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    At this point, they’re just rage baiting and saying random shit to squeeze that bubble before it bursts.

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      They are just afraid that a competitor may find some way of actually benefiting from AI before they do.

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    AI is opening so many security HOLES. Its not solving shit. AI browsers and MCP connectors are wild west security nightmares. And that’s before you even trust any code these things write.