I was born into & will die with Learning Challenges (in- language processing & short & long term memories), have earned degree in SLD, many certifications, including VE & ESE, from the most respected higher educational school in Fl., whatever that is worth, & facilitated learning in Elementary schools’-high schools’-adult education school’s ESE & Etc. classrooms. So I understand that challenges can be extremely hard identify-prove & everywhere, I think everyone has a challenge, to some degree.

Yet I cannot understand the challenges that genetic engineered friends of Dr. Bashir character Lauren (played by Hillary Shepard) & Patrick (played by Michael Keenan).
The only thing that comes close to challenges I see in- Lauren having is higher attraction drive to men, than the average person &
Patrick having is he is easily manipulated-to easy to go along with others, especially by Jack.

Lauren thing seems like UPN censored away the writers from going to a real challenge & forced them to her being just higher attraction drive to men, than the average person, which is not a challenge.
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Patrick thing is not even close to being a challenge at all, maybe, lack confidence or whatever, but not a challenge, while Lauren is also not a challenge, I can understand that if the writers were not censored away from her being sex addiction, then that would been a challenge.

  • lath@piefed.socialEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Here’s a train of thought. Eugenics were forbidden and so, became an unknown. How do people treat the unknown? With fear and reticence.

    The three individuals were an unknown. They were treated with gloves on, from a distance. They didn’t have opportunities like yours and they weren’t understood.

    Without understanding someone, you can’t help them, no matter how much you’d like to. And even if you do understand, it’s not a guaranteed success.

    So they couldn’t develop because they were incompatible with their environment and instead magnified traits which were there from the start.

    You say it’s not a challenge, but on the contrary, entrenched traits of personality are among the most difficult challenges to overcome. More so when considered as biological impulses sabotaging you every step of the way.
    Just like a mosquito you can’t see or catch, yet it keeps buzzing around and being a nuisance.

    Their skill wasn’t an issue, everything else was.

    • GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      There was four, until the episode Dr. Bashir “fixed” the woman,

      But other than that small correction, I totally agree with you! I think we are basically talking the same thing. I think you are also talking about what others been talking about, when they pointed-out Dr. Bashir selfishness got in the way of him treating them properly. The one woman he “fixes” & falls in love with her, but never stops to ask who she is as person, let alone if she actually loves him.

      “As member thezeesystem pointed-out- When it comes to people with challenges of any kind & using the language of fixing the challenges within them, it are dangerous areas to swim in. Most times the people with the challenges do not need the challenges completely removed, they needed the world around them to respect, understand & work a little to whom they are. Though in the case of the one-woman Dr. Bushir fixed, I think it was proper thing to do, but everything he did after was all about his loneliness.”