The US has, in all military operations throughout its history sought to exterminate all human life where and when possible, turning nations into failed states and inhibiting life for everyone, not just governments it targets.

In Serbia it targeted the power grid.

In Iraq the US starved half a million children to death even before its invasion and occupation killed another 1 million.

In Libya vital infrastructure for agriculture was deliberately destroyed.

In Syria the US seized and denied grain to deliberately starve the Syrian civilian population.

And now the US seeks to do ALL of these things to Iran and it IS.

As the US continues destroying Iran, and as more egregious crimes against humanity are required to do so, it will depend on its Israeli proxies to carry them out, or at least claim to carry them out, attacks that will cause immense human death and the destruction of vital infrastructure, all so the US can claim plausible deniability for itself.

However, every bomb, missile, plane and drop of fuel Israel uses was given to it by the US, every target is fixed by US intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, and each sortie made possible by US capabilities Israel doesn’t have including extensive aerial refueling, suppression of air defenses, region-wide radar enabling situational awareness, and even combat search and rescue.

Every “Israeli” action is an American action.

Thus every “protest” by the US is an act of theater primarily because if the US doesn’t want these targets hit it will simply deny Israel the ISR and coordinated operational capabilities (aerial refueling, suppression of air defenses, electronic warfare etc.) required to hit them.

The US knows, however, no one knows or cares about these material realities and will instead allow their myopic obsessions and emotions convince themselves somehow the Israelis, not the Americans, are in the driver’s seat and these actions were “Israeli,” not American, despite the fact Israel wouldn’t exist in the first place (just like Ukraine) without full and constant support.

Again, this DOES NOT absolve Israel for the war crimes carried out amid this war of aggression.

Like America’s proxies in Ukraine, all involved in atrocities must be fought against and held accountable.

However, if you want the war to end and the danger eliminated, identity the root of the danger, not just obsess over the tips of the branches or their falling leaves.

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    This shows the hypocrisy of Pax Americana and their tankiejerker alias. The Pax Americana accuse human rights advocates for causing failed states, hide the fact that American violent intervention is the cause of the state failure, and plagiarize any success that the resistance made for prosperity despite the sabotage. Pax Americana justify their law to declare that coerced confession determines that a suspect is guilty in the pretense that a person will never confess to a crime that they had not commited regardless of the circumstance, ceorcion, threats, blackmailing, or false promises. However, they accuse Communists for making coerced confession under the pretense that the Communist are so hard working and innovative that they can make innocent people confess to crimes that they did not commit. Pax Americana Liberals demands repressed people to submit to repression regardless of the circumstances in order to avoid provoking authoritarian regimes to cause more violence or death. However, the Liberals justify the massacre or displacement of a community of innocent people of color under the pretence that the genocide of countless innocent people are necessary sacrifice to kill a terrorist suspect.

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    US claims "̶d̶i̶s̶m̶a̶y̶"̶ ̶o̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶"̶I̶s̶r̶a̶e̶l̶i̶"̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶I̶r̶a̶n̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶f̶u̶e̶l̶ ̶d̶e̶p̶o̶t̶s̶, and why you should believe them.

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    The US has, in all military operations throughout its history sought to exterminate all human life where and when possible…

    I’m afraid if I point out how ridiculously hyperbolic this post is, I’m going to be accused of defending all of the US military’s actions, past and present. Is that what’s going to happen here?

    Edit: yep

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      Well you cut off part of the sentence (and the rest of the entire post).

      Your version:

      The US has, in all military operations throughout its history sought to exterminate all human life where and when possible…

      The full sentence:

      The US has, in all military operations throughout its history sought to exterminate all human life where and when possible, turning nations into failed states and inhibiting life for everyone, not just governments it targets.

      The way you cut it off makes it sound more hyperbolic than it actually is, as if the claim is that the US is literally trying to kill everyone on the planet. In its context, it is basically talking about how US military policy has no qualms about targeting civilians and that it has many times done mass murder of civilians in carrying out its imperial and colonial goals (which is documented fact). This is how colonialism has been historically and the US in its imperial form is not so distant from its settler roots.

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      The first that come to mind are the extermination of native americans, nuking japanese civilians, razed Korea/vietnam/laos/cambodia, then there is libya, iraq, afghanistan, yemen, palestine… Could you really say the US didnt go to this wars doing the maximum amount of damage posible? It’s not an hyperbolic statement at all when they have consistently doing it.

      I didnt even bother counting all the mass murderers they propped up in latin america or indonesia.

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        Yeah, believe it or not, all of those except for the first one are wars fought after the Geneva Conventions, and were conducted under the expectation that intentionally killing civilians for its own sake is a crime - a relatively new concept in human history (thanks USA!). Even the current operation in Iran is operating under those laws, which is why this administration lied about killing those girls.

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          Believe it or not, the US does not abide by this laws and has never done, who is going to enforce these laws when the US has the biggest military on earth and actively occupies hundreds of countries with military bases?

          Turning a blind eye to the mass murdering the US does everywhere tells me all i need to know about you.

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          Lmfao ain’t no way someone can be this dumb, all of those were the US deliberately killing civilians, even sanctions are explicitly used to make the people slowly suffer and starve to the point of revolt. Cuba is an example, but since they haven’t bombed anyone that’s totally fine, according to your dumbfuck logic

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              Oh I get it now, you’re one of those people. Pretends you’re on the left:

              This is why the left can’t get any traction. The dumbest voices are the loudest, so it gives the impression that we’re all screeching idiots with a childlike view of the world.

              But talks like a reactionary:

              Hey, aren’t you supposed to be busying cheering China’s persecution of Uyghurs? Get back to work, comrade.

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                  All I can say is, hopefully you’ll get it one day. That “leftist” doesn’t mean anything if it’s local interest in mild reforms while going to bat for imperialist narratives and being racist.

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              The Western narrative regarding Uyghurs has been thoroughly debunked.

              The fact that you are repeating it with pride and the low quality discussion that you have done here shows how little you care about understanding the reality that you live in. Fortunately, this essay speaks about the type of people that you are:

              Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style; they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on.

              Free yourself from the racism against China and investigate the reality of what the US army has done to plenty of countries. There is plenty information regarding both topics. This book talks about the US history. Investigate what their army has done.

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                  But you do have time to be racist and believe whatever atrocity propaganda is dumped on you by the USA to hate people…

                  Racism takes so much from Westerners like you. It makes you believe in this white supremacist fantasy while dismissing anything that attacks that idea.

                  If only you were brave enough to overcome those lies…

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                It was the first one called a genocide. Not the first time a genocide occurred. Are you pretending to be stupid to try to dunk on me? If so, why?

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                  “Water wasn’t called water so water didn’t exist until it was called water”

                  Is what you’re insinuating

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        Against the claim that they are attempting to extinguish all human life? No, actually, I don’t want to defend them, but you guys make it impossible to avoid.

        This is why the left can’t get any traction. The dumbest voices are the loudest, so it gives the impression that we’re all screeching idiots with a childlike view of the world.

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          This is why the left can’t get any traction. The dumbest voices are the loudest, so it gives the impression that we’re all screeching idiots with a childlike view of the world.

          And here I thought it was the billions of dollars in imperialist/capitalist media, economy, and military might that was holding the left back. Silly me.

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          Against the claim that they are attempting to extinguish all human life?

          Someone already called you out on cutting off that quote, but I guess you need to see it again, you’re fighting ghosts. The full sentence is:

          The US has, in all military operations throughout its history sought to exterminate all human life where and when possible, turning nations into failed states and inhibiting life for everyone, not just governments it targets.

          Which is what they’re doing (or at least trying) in Iran right now.

          But you choose that moment to focus on how the tankies criticize the US too hard. Hard not to reach the conclusion that you are, whether you like it or not, running defense for an imperialist war.

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            The rest of the quote doesn’t change the meaning of the first part. I would have quoted the whole post, but that would have been pointless. Just scroll up.

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        They bombed a school full of little girls. A horrible crime.

        So what do you guys do? Accuse them of trying to kill EVERYONE. Why? To distract from what actually happened? We can see that they didn’t kill everyone. Did they mess up? Run out of bombs? They have nuclear bombs - why haven’t they dropped one of those?

        This is like the right’s response to learning about elite sex trafficking. Reality isn’t salacious enough, so they come up with Pizzagate and Frazzledrip. All that does is provide cover for the real criminals because they get lumped in with the loony conspiracy theories in normies’ minds.

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          So what do you guys do? Accuse them of trying to kill EVERYONE. Why? To distract from what actually happened? We can see that they didn’t kill everyone. Did they mess up? Run out of bombs? They have nuclear bombs - why haven’t they dropped one of those?

          Do you not understand that they’re still bombing and bombing Iran? Genocide does not happen in an instant lmao. Have you seen Gaza these days? That wasn’t the result of a week of bombing, imagine the zionists saying that it isn’t a genocide because they havent exterminated everyone so far.

          Also they can’t use nuclear bombs because that defeats the purpose of nuclear deterrance and the world literally changes if a country uses a nuke at this moment, also that doesn’t change the fact that conventional warfare can be as destructive as nukes.

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          Lmfao that’s your big defense "well they didn’t kill everyone 💀 yeah man they’re primarily bombing civilians and civilian infrastructure to cause even further death but they didn’t use nukes!

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        His counter is that the US abides by geneva conventions, not even joking. And when they don’t they just lie so it’s fine.

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      i couldn’t say whether that was a fact or not, but judging by what i have seen of the US in my lifetime and from having visited Hiroshima’s museum I’m entirely inclined to believe it

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      Point it out and specify, untill then - yes, accused of defending all of the US military actions

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        I’m saying the original post is prima facie ludicrous. That was the pointing it out.