• switcheroo@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I look forward to hearing all their “olive branching” and trying to reach across the aisle and proceed to GET NOTHING DONE WHILE STILL MANAGING TO SUCK OFF THE PEDO PROTECTOR PARTY.

    We do not want ANY olive branches. They proved who they are. Everything they ask for needs to be shot down immediately (aka vote no), just like they always do. Put them in the corner, shame every one of them that keeps their job.

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          9 days ago

          As if ability to win has been a major concern for the last decade of DNC candidates

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            9 days ago

            Whether you want to admit it or not, Biden was actually the best candidate strategically, which was proven right. It says more about the US people that we all want to believe.

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              9 days ago

              Lol, no he wasn’t. A soggy potato could have won that election, but the DNC insisted on choosing a candidate who would do such a bad job on power that Trump might as well have won. To the point that a lot of liberals have forgotten that the Biden administration even happened

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                9 days ago

                Well yeah, you have a theory, and whatever supports it is true because duh, and whatever contradicts it actually supports it because your opponents are all idiots.
                It’s a nice way to feel good about yourself, but terrible way to ground yourself in reality.

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                    9 days ago

                    NO U is an amazing rebuttal. Incredibly effective at stopping you from considering that other people exist and can say something worth thinking about.

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              8 days ago

              If it wasn’t for Covid, Biden wouldn’t have stood a chance. Then Biden completely fucked over 2024. He was not the best candidate.

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                8 days ago

                I can do speculations too, if his health wouldn’t suddenly deteriorate, he would crush in 2024, but since he wasn’t an actual final candidate, we couldn’t tell, just as we can’t tell what would outcome of the previous be if not for covid.
                In the end his win record was 1/1 which is kind of what you want from a candidate.

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                  7 days ago

                  Except we can tell. He was the only candidate that polled even worse than Kamala. And you’re delusional if you think his health decline was sudden.

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                    You can always tell looking backwards, yes. The power of hindsight is infinite.
                    And yes, his health decline was sudden. He went from a normal old fart (an ideal American preferred by most) to an old fart with severe terminal illness in a span of weeks, not even months.
                    Listen, you can convince yourself to whatever, you can believe in whatever, but if you look at voting patterns, you can count on the fingers of one hand the times when broad American public chose someone who isn’t an old white conservatively leaning man, given the choice. You might not like it, I certainly don’t, but you need to come to terms with what your country is made of, if you want to stop being perpetually surprised why aren’t you achieving anything.

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      9 days ago

      They proved who they are.

      So did the Democrats. Over and over again. You’re not going to get anything you’re asking for and you’re delusional if you expect otherwise. Their job is to calm people down so we can ratchet towards fascism again in a few years.

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      There are a lot of Democrats that are not in any way progressive. For domestic issues there will always be a few that the GOP can count on to dissent and break the Democrat majority. For isreal-related there will be dozens beholden to AIPAC who will vote however the Israeli government wants.

      This is the secondary danger of Trump being terrible: democratic party doesn’t have to actually change or improve to win. They just have to exist.

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      They pulled the olive branch from the dime, you better not offer up another fucking olive branch Dems. (but we all know you will because you still think unhinged MAGA voters will somehow come around)

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        (but we all know you will because you still think unhinged MAGA voters will somehow come around)

        That’s not why. Not really. It’s because leftwing populism is contrary to the desires of the oligarchs (campaign donors / etc) who own them, while rightwing populism is either acceptable or more often actually beneficial.

        Republican / Democrat is offense / defense for the same team owners.

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            Controlled opposition is AOC / Bernie / increasingly-looking-like Zohran. Most Dems don’t even pretend to be effective opposition, unless you’re 50+ and think a strongly worded letter counts as opposition.

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              I think you are misunderstanding the term. You’re referencing actual opposition. Schumer/Jeffries and the majority of the rest of the party are opposition controlled by the oligarchs.

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                You think constantly reaffirming Israel’s right to exist, voting to continue funding its existence and armament, and using terms like “the Netanyahu government” instead of demanding an end to the entire rotten ethnostate apartheid colonial project qualifies as “opposition”?

                If so, the only one misunderstanding the term “opposition” is you.

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      Anything less than burning through the Epstein list and arresting every single one of them, while making the biggest effort they can to undo everything that’s happened during the Trump terms should not be accepted