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    I browse “All” most of the time and the Femcel Memes show up pretty regularly. It’s not like this gif though. It’s more like watching a super interesting science experiment.

    “Ah, yes. I see. I see. How interesting!”

    My scientific notes so far:

    • They crave cuddles. It’s almost like a cuddle-based economy.
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        I just took an NFPA 70E electrical safety course, and the instructor was talking about how electricians love to cuddle.

        I thought it was weird for a sec, then I remembered the last time I opened an electrical panel with someone else nearby. Then I remembered every other time I opened an electrical panel with other people nearby. Then I remembered all the times that I was all the other people nearby.

        Then he showed us a video of an arc flash with 3 people inside the panel, and then there was nobody nearby.

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        Straight guys can’t say it. Not because they don’t crave them, they just can’t say that they do without social sanction. Everyone else apparently gets a pass though.

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          I’ll say it; I crave cuddles.

          Cuddles while watching TV is one of the only things that’ll pull me away from my computer.

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              Pffft. Grow the fuck up, find your fucking balls and fucking own it.

              It only plays that way if you let it.

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      Another note is that they seem to all be autistic, with many of them exhibiting symptoms of severe depression. Most are also trans lesbians. Many seem to be cat/fox/puppygirls.

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        Depressed autistic transbians commiserating about loneliness

        “Aw cute puppygirls!” head pats

        Depessed autistic cis guys commiserating about loneliness

        “Ew gross incels, yuck!” social stigma

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            Lots of lonely guys aren’t lashing out and demeaning others either, but people don’t notice them because they’re not lashing out and demeaning others. They still get labeled as incels though, and if they find that hurtful then people will absolutely shred them for it anyway.

            Also, they’ll be shamed for bed rotting, and shamed for watching yuri. No matter what they do, they’ll be shamed for it. So it’s honestly not surprising when a number of them end up lashing out.

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                Yes, people do call even the ones who aren’t being assholes “incels.” It’s a derogatory term that gets used against anyone who doesn’t get laid. Like calling someone a “virgin.” It’s shitty, and it promotes toxic masculinity. It also objectifies women by implying that men need to “get p***y” in order to be worthy of basic respect.

                And I’m tired of hearing this excuse that “it doesn’t refer to literal involuntary celibates, it refers to redpilled misogynistic jerks.” But that simply isn’t true, because people definitely apply it to literal “involuntary celibates” and use it as an insult like calling someone a “virgin.” It’s childish and immature. Also, there are lots of misogynistic jerks who get laid. Focusing all your ire on “incels” misses the point entirely, lets those people off the hook, and perpetuates the issue by communicating the subtext that “you can be a misogynistic jerk as long as you get laid, and then we’ll still respect you.” If you can’t see how that’s toxic and detrimental to society, then I can’t help you.

                And do you think that women are not judged if they behave in the femcel manner?

                They’re more likely to be fetishized, which is bad in a different way. But it certainly hasn’t risen to the level of a cultural pastime like shaming incels has.

                It seems like you’re applying a double standard, there.

                I’m not the one applying a double-standard. I’m pointing out the double-standard.

                I never said “femcels should be shamed, and incels shouldn’t be.”

                I said “femcels don’t get shamed the same way incels do.”

                If the former is how you interpret the latter, that’s on you. If I need to explicitly state what I meant, it’s closer to this:

                “Maybe nobody should be shamed for being lonely and having poor social skills, regardless of gender.”

                If the issue is misogyny, target the misogyny. Not the inability to get sex, because that is going to do nothing to address the misogyny.

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                Hmm yes they often are even when they are just complaining that they disdain the situation. I don’t know about women though I don’t know that many that are bed rotting

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                  If they can look up Yaoi, bed rot, or even have the energy to complain about men, they are underemployed. I can’t even think about sex without realizing I could probably pull it off, but my job would get in the way of it, as with anything. The workplace is our god, everything, even family is secondary, because you can’t have family without work.

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            I mean, you don’t have to be attracted to anything you’re not attracted to. No one is saying “you have to like puppygirls!”

            The point isn’t to fetishize femcels. The point is that double-standards are a problem that maybe understandably lead to people feeling left behind by society.

            Maybe “incels” have a legitimate reason for feeling discontent after all, and it’s not “because women tell them no” like people claim. More like “because people ridicule them for being alone.”

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      just wait till you see the cuddle parties in vrchat with full body tracking hehe

      (I’m the one with piece signs)

      though, unfortunately not with the folks from femcel memes… :(

      ^cough cough [email protected] cough cough^

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          I think I just walked in here from searching about VR stuff, but you can 3d print a PCVR headset and assemble with off the shelf components for under $150 USD (there’s an article on hackaday), or buy used headsets for $200-300. It’s not unobtainable to most, I think.

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    How do you haplessly wander into it? I can’t even deliberately visit with the url, it just throws an error thru lemmy.world

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    I love the femcel memes people. What scares me is if Violet08 finds them, I think together they would be too powerful.

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    I stumbled upon a conversation about violence against women on Twitter once. The lady spearheading it was of strong opinions against men. Yes, violence against women is abhorrent, and those responsible should be held accountable. Women have the right to be safe.

    But … she seemed to be blaming every man on Earth, going so far as to call for their eradication.

    I happened to make the innocent (yes, truly, I’d never heard or used the statement before), that ‘not all men’ are like the scumbags who commit violence against women.

    Well … !

    “FUCK OFF WITH YOUR NOT ALL MEN BULLSHIT, YOU MYSOGYNIST TROLL CUNT!” And further robust exclamations and accusations of that nature ensued.

    Educated as to the limitations of my knowledge in this area, I decided to withdraw from the conversation.

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      Civil discourse dies on twitter. The algo demands “engagement”.

      Also, the absolute irony of using Elon Musk’s platform to push a progressive or faux-progressive view point.

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    Joined Lemmy and was randomly adding communities. Started getting random memes coming through and that’s when I found out what a “bussy” was.

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    It’s been a few years since I delved into the Reddit side, but the femcel communities here are much nicer places to be than the subreddits. There’s some feeling of independence and empowerment here, whereas the subreddits were always overwhelmed by insufferable idiots. They were truly the female version of terminally online incels.

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        Being MAGA disqualifies you. Even then, I might think if her only problem is a lack of men accepting her, maybe her finding someone would make her stop going MAGA? At least another woman if nothing else.

        But I don’t trust humans enough to be vulnerable near them atm, so past tense. They only understand paycuts and lawsuits, that’s how I establish facts, through legal documents and courts.