Protest against the Omarchy/Omacom Foundation and the tech companies and executives funding far-right open source.

  • Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I honestly don’t see why any of this should stop someone from using the software.

    It’s open source. If you don’t like DHH, his politics, or the people funding Omarchy, then don’t give them money. Don’t donate, don’t sponsor them, don’t contribute upstream.

    But the code is out there under the MIT license. Anyone can use it, change it, remove whatever they don’t like, or fork the whole thing.

    Using a piece of open-source software doesn’t mean you endorse the politics of whoever wrote it. If that were the standard, we’d probably have to audit the personal beliefs of thousands of developers before installing anything.

    And if people really think Omarchy has become some political project, then fork it. Change the branding, change the maintainers, change whatever you want. That’s literally one of the reasons open source is useful.

    Boycotting companies you don’t want to financially support is one thing. Treating open-source code itself as politically contaminated is another, and I don’t think that makes much sense.

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      Voicing again my agreement, all of this energy going against DHH could be put into a fork and that would be way more powerful and effective of a move.

      It’s got kind of a tai chi element - move in the direction of the vector don’t try to go against it. It’s popular for a reason, and you don’t have to throw the baby out with the bath water. There are many things today that you could hyperfocus on the evil aspect of that people still use in their daily lives because it brings them utility.

      I used Omarchy and it inspired me to make a NixOS version of it that I called Omnixient :) Thanks to the open-source nature I now have my own awesome config that has brought me a lot of fulfillment and productivity I did not have before.

      • 4am@lemmy.zip
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        2 months ago

        Publish it.

        Again the software and its functionality are not the problem, I just don’t want to support a jackass and his shit takes about dehumanizing people and passing the buck on problems society created.

        While he takes on million of dollars for a project that is not an innovator in the space.

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          2 months ago

          but I’m honestly curious, what is this movement against him going to accomplish? I do not know this DHH character nor do I care to listen to anything he says. If he’s as bad as all of these accusations make him out to be then he’s someone who’s just going to write off all of this and/or it’ll fuel him.

          I’m genuinely curious, what is the real value or impact of this crusade versus putting that energy toward something constructive? While everyone here is writing about fascism, him and capitalism will keep developing.

          It’s just all sounds like terribly futile tactics…

          I had originally linked it, but damn! to be honest i want to have nothing to do with whatever is going on here and I’m just going to keep building stuff toward open-source decentralized future using whatever tools I have at my disposal to close the distance. I’m no trained software developer (learned C++ and python from mech engineering & physics) that can reliably maintain a repo people might depend on and this just seems like people flinging shit around. Noooo thank you

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              I wish that were true but I don’t know that it’s the case. People need something that gives them utility. It seems like everyone is oversaturated these days trying to reconcile the evil that’s being illuminated around the world. I understand the intention, I just don’t think it’s ultimately effective.

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    Everywhere I look in these threads I see accusations of “far-right”, “racist”, “Nazi”, “fascist”, etc, coming from people who seem to me to be in support of equally extremist views such as communism, sexual sterilization of minors, unchecked mass migration, and other objectively destructive social, political and economic views. You’re all standing in glass houses lobbing stones without the slightest bit of self-awareness of the sheer hypocrisy involved.

    Not all of us who work in tech are so thoroughly indoctrinated with far left ideology that we can’t see the reality on the ground in our own homelands and develop an informed opinion on it. The bottom line is, whatever projects you’re involved with could just as easily become the target of this same kind of purity test that you’re all trying to enforce. There’s not much stopping any given software project from being forked and taken over by new management once enough people get sick of the ideologues who’ve positioned themselves as self-proclaimed moral gatekeepers.

    Meanwhile the beauty of FLOSS in itself is that it is (at least was until fairly recently) effectively borderless, allowing people from vastly different cultures, backgrounds and political affiliations, to all collaborate on producing great products made freely available to everyone. By its nature it transcends and transgresses all these artificial boundaries and flies in the face of the politics we’re always told should divide us as human beings. It’s well past time everyone spits out their respective koolaid and is reminded of that fact. FLOSS is a bridge which brings us together and helps us overcome our differences through shared labors of love. Those who try to inject division and discord into that ethos have no rightful place among us.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
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      You’re a huge dumbass who fell for so much propaganda that it’s almost impossible to even begin to argue with any of this because there are so many bad faith points and false equivalences here.

      Just from your opening statement, I see “communism” as an “extreme viewpoint” (it’s not), “sexual sterilization of minors” which is a transphobic dog whistle (no one is sterilizing children), “unchecked mass migration” which is MAGA racist dog-whistle bullshit for “I think only white people should be allowed in rich countries” (no one is opening borders and eschewing immigration law, not even Obama or Biden), “and other objectively destructive” as if your opinion is pure objectivity (delusional) and destructive? Destructive of what, oppressive norms that serve only to entrench power structures while removing freedoms from people who would just like to live their lives?

      “The bottom line is, whatever projects you’re involved with could just as easily become the target of this same kind of purity test that you’re all trying to enforce.” - yeah, if they start publishing Nazi-inspired blog posts dehumanizing people and praising authoritarian repressive figures, start raising tons of capital with the hopes of cashing in on their creation: Why the fuck WOULD we support making those assholes rich? It’s not about the software dumbass, it’s about not funding toxic and oppressive figures.

      • loppwn@sh.itjust.works
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        Unchecked mass migration is a problem - these people need work, education, shelter and a lot more to integrate. If a country doesnt have enough ressources to provide this you will get large clusters of people living in a parallel society, not able to speak the language of the hosting country, no chance to have a good job, lots of hate on both sides and the rise of racism and fascism.