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Kind of clickbaity.
“There are some code leftovers that suggest Apple has been developing iPad and Mac versions of the Journal app, but it all seems quite experimental and unlikely to be ready in time for the release of iPadOS 17.2 and macOS 14.2 in the coming months. If I had to make a guess, I’d say that Apple will hold the iPad and Mac versions for iPadOS 18 and macOS 15.”
It looks like they’re working on it, but it’s not on the beta of 17.2. It might take a bit, but there’s nothing that suggests that it will never be on either.
This app is useless anyway, can Apple rewrite Xcode from the ground up ?
Yeah I won’t be using it then.
trillion dollar company y’all
Yeah because typing on a phone is bliss. WTF.
I honestly prefer typing on iPad the least
lul
Health data isn’t collected on Mac or iPad, so it makes a lot less sense for those apps to exist. Journal on the other hand makes plenty of sense being Mac and iPad apps.
Or never, like the calculator app for iPad.
That’s stupid. I hate typing on my iPhone. I’m doing it now only cuz I’m at work and my iPad is at home but I’m not thrilled about it. I was really looking forward to it but I guess I’ll keep using the Notes app
I’d love to be able to start a little entry on my iPhone after work or wherever, then pop on my Mac and expand on it in more of a long form entry when I’m home, or even the morning after once I’ve had time to sleep and reflect on the previous day, even my iPad with my Apple Pencil to jot down my thoughts.
Apple is usually pretty fantastic when it comes to syncing and having everything uniform within its ecosystem, really beautifully done more often than not, Journalling would be great for that, yet they’ve simply skipped that part here.
It’s a little disappointing that we’ll prob have to wait until next year at the earliest for iPad and Mac versions.
Journal really seems like one of those apps that should be on all devices for at least the purpose I mentioned above surely?
I do journaling every now and then and I do it exclusively on my iPad. Such a stupid decision.
What app do you currently use? I was thinking of getting into journaling and was waiting for this app, but not being able to use my Mac or iPad ruins it
Using Google Keep for the last 5+ years. Simply because it’s free and available across platforms.
It’s a great app… which means Google will probably kill it next year sometime
DayOne is a good app if you want something that’s actually dedicated to journalling. It’s been around for over a decade and has apps on all platforms.
I was excited for this on iPad. Just like you, I journal here and there. I use Goodnotes.
Sweet, Snse has Apple beat (in that it runs on iOS, iPadOS and macOS)
A journaling app…doesn’t support…an iPad… I honestly can’t believe how much Apple clearly doesn’t care about the iPad. iPhones and Macs are receiving updates with lots of features and iPad just gets last years iOS features. I could maybe understand no Mac support, but no iPad support is wild.
Clearly there is something cooking in the background for years now related to iPads, and thats why the neglect, its like thermal issues on latest intel macs before m1 dropped, they didnt care because they new its going to change. We just don’t know yet what it will be, but I personaly guess ipads will be axed and merged with macs, basically you would get an ipad pro but it would be running mac os, and be called a mac.
Not a chance iPads will get “axed”.
I could see them ditching the iPad Pros but keeping the air and mini
Lol. Have you ever tried using a desktop Windows app on a Windows tablet touchscreen? Obviously not or you wouldn’t have written that.
The problem isn’t getting the OS to run on the same hardware in a different form factor. The problem is decades of software written for keyboard/mouse and pixel-accuracy when touchscreens are for big fat fingers.
My theory is that Apple, at some point, had a clear(er) vision for iPad development but once Vision Pro development began, they shifted resources to that. And now the iPad seems kinda directionless.
And I know that many people theorize that Apple intends (or intended) to put macOS on iPad. But I disagree. I don’t think Apple would have put in all the work to build out iPadOS in all the ways they did if they intended to scrap it all and out macOS on it later (mouse support, external display support, multitasking, etc.).
Instead I believe that Apple intends to build out iOS/iPadOS into a full desktop operating system and eventually make that available on your iPhone. Basically Samsung Dex but more functional. The iPad is almost there.
Many people say this wouldn’t make sense because Apple would cannibalize Mac sales by doing this. But it actually has a couple advantages. iOS brings in App Store revenue unlike a Mac. And also we can’t assume that every customer currently has an iPhone and a Mac. Lots of people have an iPhone and a garbage $400 windows laptop. So it wouldn’t cannibalize a Mac sale in that case.
You are forgetting that apart from the visuals, they are all the same OS. Apple intentionally disallows running macOS apps on iPads. There is no reason for iPadOS to not support them, or rather the apps not supporting iPadOS.
It took them forever to make the lock screen feel like something other than a large iPhone. It’s crazy how underdeveloped the software feels.
The iPad’s biggest weakness has been its OS. To this day. Hardware always very solid, albeit “fragmented” with a ridiculous 3 pencil and connected keyboard ecosystem… but more or less solid.
Seriously. Now that the rumored 12in MacBook is coming back it seems even more silly that my M2 iPad Pro can’t run MacOS or something close to it. If I could run desktop applications like Sketch on my iPad I would never bring my MacBook anywhere.
If I could run desktop applications like Sketch on my iPad I would never bring my MacBook anywhere.
That’s why they won’t upgrade the OS. They want you to own ALL the devices and be stuck in the ecosystem.
It’s annoying because you hear “they don’t want to cannibalize MacBook sales”, but it doesnt work like that. The kind of person that wants a Surface Pro is different than the person that wants a dedicated laptop or tablet. But there aren’t enough Apple users that are that technologically inclined so here we are.
No Mac support makes this a pointless app for me. I don’t like typing on my iPhone much, especially if I’m trying to type a journal entry. I was holding off getting day one for this so I can use this to make entries on my Mac, but still have it on my phone, I’ve been using the notes app, but it’s limited. They should wait until the app is ready for iPad, Mac and iOS, but it is what it is.
On the risk of sounding ignorant, what was the journal app again? I still don’t get it’s novelty. It felt like fancy notetaking to me.
It’s notes but basically a personal dairy.
Will I have to milk my own cows?
Notetaking and journaling are different. The point is it gives you some prompts to reflect on your day (or you can write whatever you want).
It’s the perfect app for the iPad, are you for real Apple?
Not sure why everyone is so shocked. Apple is well known for trickling in new/old features so that they have something to announce each year
Just because it’s how they’ve operated before doesn’t mean that’s a good thing. Wasn’t Freeform released on everything at the same time?
In the era of Catalyst apps there’s no excuse for this beyond laziness.
SwiftUI was supposed to make targeting the different form factors with one codebase easy. It is not encouraging if not even Apple can do it.
It reminds me way back in the day when Carbon was promoted as a relatively easy transition. Then by the Intel transition they were admitting how long and difficult it actually was.