Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flew over Greece, Italy, France and Canada on Thursday on his way to address the UN, despite an International Criminal Court warrant for his arrest.
The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu in November 2024, on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity allegedly committed in Gaza since October 2023.
Netanyahu arrived in the US for a short visit to address the UN General Assembly in New York, where Mayor Zohran Mamdani has said he does not have the authority to arrest the Israeli leader.
It makes sense. The guy running (destroying) the USA would probably invade them if they took action.
Ashamed of my so-called country.
As am i
Typical western double standards. Apparently, AIPAC has control over these countries’ politicians
Apparently, AIPAC has control over these countries’ politicians
I think it’s more that they’re all on the same imperialist team, that Israel is a partner in crime.
But what about the rules based international order?
We break the rules, you follow the orders, Citizen!
Pussies
What are they supposed to do? Shoot him down?
Yes. How do you think countries enforce their airspace?
Which would immediately start war.
Yeah israel depends on the west for its life. They wouldnt have the balls to start a full war with a western power.
No it wouldn’t lol. Israel isn’t going to war with France.
If he is unwilling to land, when ordered? Yes. He is guilty of committing war crimes, they are supposed to do something about that.
As a last resirt, yes. But fist try to force him to land obviously.
Literally yes
Yes
FIRE THE MISSILES
Trow ze switch!
Coming from reddit, it’s interesting to see a world news forum that isn’t entirely and totally captured by Israeli Hasbara mods. I got banned from reddit’s /worldnews for pointing out that “invade Iran” vs “let Iran have nukes” is an asinine false dichotomy. (And I didn’t even use the word “asinine.”)
That’s basically why communists created Lemmy in the first place, to allow communities unencumbered corporate social media’s censorious algorithms to thrive.
here is Zionist violence monitor: https://sh.itjust.works/c/ZionistViolenceMonitor
Also: https://archivegenocide.com/
(warning: graphic.)
I think Iran should have nukes
Ideally no country should have nukes.
However, Iran having nukes may be preferable to Iran having its country ‘annihilated’ by an empire that already has nukes, and is the only country to have ever used them.
Once socialism becomes global and imperialism is eradicated, we can do serious work toward nuclear disarmament. I’m old, though, and won’t live to see it.
In the world where countries do have nukes, I think Iran should have nukes. In a world without nukes I think they should also not have them.
I don’t think any country should have nukes.
In the world where countries do have nukes, I think Iran should have nukes. In a world without nukes I think they should also not have them.
Welcome to Lemmy!
Thanks, friend!
I think any country that allows things like this should get ignored by the ICC for any criminals that they want to have arrested. France looking for a criminal that stole stuff from the Louvre or something? Nah, ask someone else.
France (and the rest of capitalist core) is already ignored by ICC. Reading many comments in this thread i see that people seems to have many misconceptions concerning purpose and scale of ICC. In fact, it is not chasing burglars, but it is the colonial court for Africa and the scale of its activities are kinda pathetic since the number of indicted are not many and many of them were not even arrested and judged.
ICC only had its five minutes when it accused Putin (enthusiastically supported by all the countries that now ignore its accusation against Netanyahu) and now Netanyahu.
- Colonize Africa, appropriating its land and people.
- Stop colonization, but never pay African countries back for it in any noticeable capacity.
- Force African countries to join the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund, both of which strongly prioritize rich countries’ interests.
- Now they’re not colonies, but they still have to work like slaves to pay off unfair debts.
- Force them to join the ICC, which, among other activities, punishes mostly African government officials for forced labour in their countries, without which they would not be able to pay off debts to rich countries.
This is the West, the one that is supposedly peaceful, democratic, and wants to build a rule-based world order. Yep, checks out.
I hate to say I told you so, but I earlier this week said the ICC a neocolonial imperialist institution employs selective justice. Turns out the .today and .worlders were wrong again.
Many such cases
“Rules-based international order” folks.
Because US have in law that they can use military force, if them or their allies are put before the ICC.
But he’s afraid to fly over Ireland but not France.
It’s quite telling
I wish they’d call the bluff, the US military is already overstretched.
Are Palestinians worth like 20 Iraqi? Why are 50.000 casualties getting so much more recognition the 1million+ Iraqi and Afghani civilians the Americans slaughtered! While it are primarily Americans fighting for the Palestinian cause.
Almost like there is a political agenda. Bunch of hypocrites, the lot of you.
It’s kind of amazing .world lets Zionists like you have an account for so long. @[email protected]
Please don’t summon Lund; nothing productive ever comes of it.
Surprisingly, I think they actually nuked the account.
Thank you @[email protected] very based.
If only. I banned it.
Oh my bad I thought the account was banned because it said so on the profile. Thank you then.
Only banned from our instance. You’d have to go to their instance to see if they’re banned from there (I checked; they’re not).
24 days with 0 reported posts in any of my communities, nothing much I can do about it, but yeah, the comment that got removed here would catch a ban in World as well. I haven’t seen apologia like that since 10/7 when people were trying to say the Israelis hadn’t “really” killed that many people…
the comment that got removed here would catch a ban in World as well.
Maybe now that Trump is in, but before that you explicitly allowed Gaza genocide denial and indeed banned people who reported it.
No, no I did not. I regularly removed comments and banned users denying the genocide from the start when the numbers of Palestinians killed were as low as 5,000 and morons were trying to say “Nuh uh! You don’t know that!”
Bullshit.
Whatever helps you sleep at night! 😘
You explicitly told me you made an exception to the rule against genocide denial for the Gaza genocide, then banned me for reporting them because that was “harassment”.
No, I banned you for being an unrepentant asshole. LOL. I see nothing has changed.
Maybe you should stop moderating fucking Nazi communities.
LOL - still running that “nonconfrontational” line I see… How’s that working out for you?
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=22645042
How’s that working out for you?
You’re like pure reddit congealed into a person
It’s cool, you’re .ml congealed as a person. 😂
still running that “nonconfrontational” line I see… How’s that working out for you?
What the fuck are you talking about? It’s just a username. It’s working great?
You are 100% confrontational and keep catching bans for it. 😉
It’s like you’re not even speaking the same language as me, lol.
Why would I give a fuck if I’m banned from your garbage Nazi communities??
@[email protected] will probably make him a mod lol
Please don’t summon him to lemmy.ml. It only ever results in more smug liberal diarrhea.
50.000 casualties
Genocide denial
While it are primarily Americans fighting for the Palestinian cause.
???
I see, it is about 77k at moment of writing according to the UN.
Must be a great argument to win. 1 palestinian is worth only 18 Aghans.
Oh so not 50k? So you were lying then.
And we both know damn well that 77k is the number of positively identified direct fatalities (not causalities, as you tried to lie) caused by Israeli munitions, it doesn’t include deaths from indirect causes resulting from the complete destruction of civil infrastructure or deaths that couldn’t be confirmed because the bodies were buried beneath bubble or couldn’t be positively identified by what remains of the Palestinian medical system after it’s systematic destruction by Israel. Meanwhile the number you’re citing for Afghanistan is total excess mortality from all secondary effects.
But again, you know that, and you’re being dishonest on purpose because you support the genocide going on in Gaza.
are we pretending that most people protesting the genocide of palestinians do not also abhor the actions of the west in iraq and afghanistan (and iran).
Where’s the actions? Anyone put Bush Jr on the ICC wanted list yet?
Or Obama for butchering about 200.000 arabs and north africans?
Did the US ever bothered to acknowledge the ICC? How many protests can you count in the US to join the ICC?
No? Fantastic counter argument you made there.
“Poor Impulse Control”
Remember when France did this on Obama’s orders in 2013? Bolivia Presidential plane forced to land after false rumors of Snowden onboard.
Putting aside the question of whether the leadership of those countries actually wanted to arrest him, it’s not obvious to me what they could actually do.
When an aircraft is passing through, and not actually landing, they could order it to land (which it would refuse to do, presumably), then they could resort to some posturing with fighter aircraft, then they would either have to give up or shoot down a foreign head of state.
Unless they’re willing to immediately go to war with Israel and the US, and likely a bunch of other countries, there’s really nothing they can do about it
If an aircraft enters your airspace without your permission, you can shoot it down. Who is on it is immaterial. I can understand Italy, Greece and Canada not having AA missiles or not wanting to piss off the US, but France can 100% get away with it. The US won’t pick a fight with a nuclear power.
Western
ValuesHypocrisy laid bare:Rules for thee, virtue signalling for me.
there’s really nothing they can do about it
Do you think Putin could go through these European airspace without being challenged?
Give us some more of that mental gymnastics, bud.
Do you think Putin could go through these European airspace without being challenged?
What are they gonna do? Shoot down the leader of the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world?
I wouldn’t be even surprised if they did, but Putin never tested it.
They would probably threaten to, at least. Denial of airspace, then if he went through anyway there’s zero chance they wouldn’t send fighter jets up there.
They should withdraw from the icc then
If a cop wants you to stop your car, don’t do it, you can just keep driving.
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Not give it passage through their airspace. The most basic things.
So basic that you can’t even answer how that would be achieved
It goes like this:
Plane carrying a person accused of crimes against humanity: “Air traffic control ICC this is airplane ABC-123 requesting permission to enter airspace DEF heading 123”
A country that is a signatory to the ICC and obligated to act on an international arrest warrant for persons wanted to stand trial for crimes against humanity if they enter their territory: “Permission denied, if you eneter this airspace you will be escorted to military base HIJ where you will be detained and escorted to the ICC to stand trail for crimes against humanity.”
And then they call your bluff and fly through anyway.
Then what? You shoot down the prime minister of Israel? You single handedly end NATO, make your nation a pariah, cause a rapid expansion of war in the Middle East, plunge the global market into a depression, and run the risk of causing a world war?
Yeah there’s a reason why none of these countries did anything. The ICC is a joke and always has been. It has zero actual authority and it’s only purpose has always been to maintain western dominance in the world.
That’s it.
Then you do exactly what you saif you would do. You ‘escort’ the plane with miltary planes, that have a progressive level of escalation which if taken to the most extreme could be getting shot down.
So you think that these countries would let Putin fly through their airspace?
Absolutely. They’re not going to shoot down and kill a leader of a nuclear power. You’re absolutely insane if you think that’s the encase.
Which is why Putin flies over them whenever he likes, right?
Planes demand access to airspace before entering it. Open a search engine if you want to find out more.
Open a search engine if you want to find out more.
So arrogant
I’m well aware of that, but what do you actually expect to happen when that gets ignored? Threaten a plane carrying the leader of a nuclear power? That’ll go well.
I’d also love to see him in handcuffs but escalation is obviously unproductive when he can’t be safely arrested and planes requesting permission is only a courtesy when there are no consequences to defiance.
I’d also love to see him in handcuffs
But you’ve already decided that no country should be expected to actually arrest him
he can’t be safely arrested
What does “safely arrested” fucking mean? You’ve already declared that no country can use force against him, so he can just say “no” if any country tried to arrest him. He could literally hike through these countries and, according to you, there’s nothing they can do about it.
But you’ve already decided that no country should be expected to actually arrest him
You’ve already declared that no country can use force against him
I literally never said either of those things and don’t agree with them either. But whatever, I’m not gonna continue to argue if you’re just going to make shit up.
Enjoy your echo chamber, buddy (apt username btw)
I literally never said either of those things and don’t agree with them either.
Yes you did, repeatedly. Lying dipshit
Enjoy your echo chamber, buddy (apt username btw)
Go back to reddit you insufferable fucking loser
Do you really think Israel would nuke France if they grounded his plane?
I don’t think they’d immediately press the red button, but they clearly have a capacity to escalate and have shown in the middle east that they’re quite trigger happy
Israel would literally cease to exist if it got in a war with France. Israel isn’t going to war with fucking NATO
How do you think nations enforce their airspace normally?
You plan to not give passage with your amazing mind control skills?
Your “basic things” proposal needs to be pragmatic.
How do you think nations enforce their airspace normally?
I always assume that libs are dumb as fuck but this was just amazing. They don’t know anything holy shit.
They’ve become worse than parodies of themselves at this point. Like, Netanyahu could literally drive through these countries and these white supremacists would be arguing “How could they possibly arrest him? He could just say no!”
