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256 GB model: $1,059 USD
1TB model: $1,299 USD
Preorder list randomized, goes out Sept 17th
Power supply not included, costs $29 (same as Steam Deck power supply)
3rd party addon available for color passthrough, Arcturus Vision Camera, $149
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Damn it.
Thrillseeker put up a pretty good hands-on report recently. I do a lot of sim driving in VR and I mainly just want to get off the Quest/Meta ecosystem. It was either this or the Pimax Crystal Light, and I think this is the more versatile machine.
Can’t wait to see how much better these get in a decade or two. I still don’t really feel like it’s advanced enough for me to give up on regular screen gaming, but it seems pretty cool.
DOA. Maybe it’s not fair because it’d probably be $700 and in my budget if memory and storage had stayed steady instead of ballooned, but I’m not interested in this or the machine at the prices they are debuting at
I’m pretty sure they literally talked about this at launch. One of them said “we wish this could have been the price we had for it even a year ago.”
Fuck AI.
Considering everything else they’ve been putting out right now has been selling out quickly despite price increases, it’s probably going to do just fine.
But I for one am also priced out of it, so. 🫠
I’m sure others are interested. $1000 is what I thought it’d cost too.
Joined the list for the 1TB. Guess I’ll be selling some CS2 items. If the Jetset AK goes as well I may add well pick up the Vision Camera.
I want to remember people, that I was right and Tyler McVicker was wrong. He predicted a launch price of 1500 Dollars. There were entire articles and discussions in the web around that prediction: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/112988/the-steam-frame-could-be-priced-at-dollars1500-at-launch-according-to-insider/index.html and linked to Lemmy post for discussions: https://lemmy.ml/post/51014971 I just find it fun to see and read what people expected, and then what reality is.
I quote myself:
BTW the article is based off Tyler McVicker’s prediction. He was never good at predicting…
how come you have gone back with your account to lemmy.ml?
I actually don’t understand your question. My current account https://lemmy.ml/u/thingsiplay is the last and newest one I created. Before that, I had an account at beehaw instance. I had disagreed with a deletion of my reply, just because they didn’t like it (or even understood). No toxicity was involved. … aand before that I also had an account on kbin, but switched over to Lemmy, because kbin seems to be dead. I didn’t check in years.
Unless I misunderstood your question.
I’m asking because this account of yours is just 8 months old, but I have seen you around for a long time. also I think you had more upvotes counted in voyager
This is my only account I am using, since I abandoned my previous main account with same name and icon. My previous account was on beehaw instance at https://beehaw.org/u/thingsiplay , joined 3 years ago. I left that place because I disagree with moderation and switched to lemmy.ml. I do not use multiple accounts at the same time, BTW, always a single main account.
Just curious why .ml?
You mean why this instance specifically? I looked around and there was a few candidates. For one, I wanted a big one with many people. One of the reasons to is, so the instance seems to be lively and won’t close too soon. Because I don’t want another kbin situation. I don’t want want that blocks many instances or get blocked by many (besides the extremes off course).
One that is not tooo much opinionated like beehaw, because I don’t want that anymore. I looked into the rules, and some instances had bad rules, don’t remember details. It’s even run by the Lemmy’s developers themselves. Not sure if that is a good thing, but it ensures a bit of longevity I think. And first class support and updates.
Other than that, I don’t remember too many details. Why you guys chose the instance you chose?
.ml has a reputation of hosting lots of tankies, which is why some people have the whole instance banned, I chose sopuli because low ping
Had a VR headset but didn’t really use it enough to justify the cost tbh. These are double the cost too.
If I had that much money to spend I think it would be better to spend it on a screen instead of a VR headset. Should look up screens actually, aren’t they usually getting better/cheaper still unlike all other components? Could probably get a really nice screen for the cost of an RTXanything at this point.
Not that my current one is bad though. 1440p 144hz, think its only like 5 years old. Of course £1k could get something much better.
I am on the nice monitor bandwagon and I strongly recommend geting something with a VESA DisplayHDR True Black certification. Also 4K is very enjoyable if you can get it, you can always decrease resolution for FPS when gaming but the crispness of text and interfaces while doing desktop things is very nice.
What is HDR support on Linux like these days? Not looked into it too much as I am pretty sure my monitor isn’t HDR.
Would love to see some different monitors to actually compare tbh. My current screen essentially has built in motion blur, most visible with text if moved across the screen there is a slight trail behind it. I think its a common thing on loads of screens but some are better than others.
That kinda stuff also gets into the area where its harder to tell which screen is better, resolution and refresh rate are easy stats to look at.
If you want something that cuts down on motion blur, the website BlurBusters.com is still an excellent resource.
I’ve had a Quest 1 for years and it’s starting to show its age. I’m excited to get this as my new headset.
I hope these won’t sell out/queue up as much as Machines and Controllers do, since I can only safely afford it after a few months after a recent PC purchase.
But since this doesn’t have competition like the Machine (if you hate Meta), I’m worried.
Ahhhh ehhhhhhhhhh
If I didn’t have a Q3 already maybe. But for $1k I can’t swing it.
Excited to see where all this x86->ARM translation work goes though. And hopefully some new VR games market’s been stale.
The Meta headsets were a no-go for me due to the huge privacy concerns. I’ll gladly pay a premium to have hardware I actually own.
Wow. I was looking forward to one but I’m skeptical about the standalone mode.
I want to play games like No Mans Sky in VR but I don’t think that’s possible. My only gaming PC is a steam deck.
Since this is an ARM device, can we play traditional x86-64 games on ARM64 now? Like, on other hardware besides Steam Frame?
There are SteamOS builds for several arm64-based handhelds already and they can play many x86-64 games through FEX. Look at Armada OS, which is basically Bazzite for arm64.
Wine has CPU emulation hooks since some time, and now protonGE is split into Arm and x86_64 branches. So yes? I think LTT even tested windows games on Steam Frame and it kinda worked
I didn’t try it yet but yes, FEX is open source: https://fex-emu.com/
Actually not terrible. Wow.
$1050 is not terrible for you? Ok…
Go look up the price of what the last ram kit, ssd, or SD card you bought costs right now, I guarantee you’re going to be surprised. No one likes the price, but I was ready for it to be way worse.
That doesn’t make this price not terrible. It just alligns with the terribleness we exepect nowadays.
It can do more than some $3500 headsets (run desktop class applications natively)
That’s so extremely vague that I don’t even know how to respond. What’s desktop class for you? x86? What type of “apps” would you want to run on a vr headset?
Basically games that were only written to run on Windows. If someone likes the idea of playing, say, Ori and the Blind Forest, on a virtual movie theater screen, this is a way to do that, no porting from the original authors needed.
Afaik, the list of titles you can do that with is around 130. On top of that, the “great on frame” baseline is 30fps at 720p. If you also take into account the fact that the snapdragon 8 gen 3 is already 3 years old and how little the Steam Frame battery lasts, then the whole idea starts to sound a lot worse.
Is it cool you can do it? Sure. Would you actually want to do it and will you have a good time? Not sure, but doesn’t sound like it.
your negativity wont stop us from running firefox and text editors on it. a wayland compositor placed in 3D space, anyone?
That’s not a thing exclusive to the steam frame. But sure, have fun.
it still seems like a good experience for flights
Better bring a few battery packs. Battery on standalone lasts like 1.5hrs.
I think a lot of people were worried that it would be ~2k from the way they were talking.
So still terrible but slightly less so? Specially considering the accessories (except the charger) are required according to reviewers. So the “real” minimum price is like $1400. And on top of it all it has monochrome passthrough? I really don’t see why people would buy this thing. I really wanted to get one but can’t justify the price.
Why is everyone so concerned with passthrough these days? MR apps are the worst XR apps of them all
I really wanted to get one but can’t justify the price.
So what was your, uh, upper limit on the budget there?
The accessories are only $50 total besides the charger. So no, the “real minimum price” isn’t $1400. Quit fucking lying
Accessories kit - $60 Charger + cable - $30 Headstrap + headphones and battery - announced, no price yet. Please note that, for some reason, there is no 3.5mm jack. If you want to use an external battery and headphones, you’ll have to buy some sort of splitter.
So yeah, far lower at $1149. It’s still way too expensive.
Lastly, take a chill pill. Sounds like you need it.
The accessories kit is really the only “mandatory” thing on this list due to the hand straps for the controllers. The top strap for the headset seems to be personal taste with some people hating it and some people needing it.
Charger + cable - $30 Most people already have chargers and cables for this, even for 45W.
Please note that, for some reason, there is no 3.5mm jack This has been a thing with smartphones and motherboards for years. This is too old to actually ve an argument anymore. If someone wants to use 3mm jack they most likely already have a splitter
Headstrap + headphones and battery - announced, no price yet That’s not really even announced yet. It’s an “fyi we’re wanting to dp this in a few months” they told reviewers
Quite being pedantic just because you got called out for being wrong.
You need to use a double linebreak after a quote to separate your response btw.
Most people already have chargers and cables for this, even for 45W.
Do you have any type of source for this? I know plenty of people that only have a 15/20w charger for their phone.
This has been a thing with smartphones and motherboards for years. This is too old to actually ve an argument anymore. If someone wants to use 3mm jack they most likely already have a splitter
It’s been a problem for years, yes. That doesn’t make it less of a problem. Also, I’ve yet to see a single motherboard that doesn’t have a 3.5mm jack. Lastly, why would you assume that they’d have a splitter? Now you’re not only expected to have dongles but also splitters? For a device that costs over 1k? Honestly, you’re playing yourself if you really think this isn’t an issue.
That’s not really even announced yet. It’s an “fyi we’re wanting to dp this in a few months” they told reviewers
That’s irrelevant. If you want to use it standalone or for a long period of time, this “accessory” will be a requirement.
Quite being pedantic just because you got called out for being wrong.
Having a different opinion is not something you can be right or wrong about. There’s this wonderful thing called “points of view”. You might want to look into it.
They said they were going for a price under the Index 999€ price point.
Then the rampocalypse happened, and they said they weren’t going to make it. I was expecting a 1200€ minimum.
So only being like 50€ over their target is not really bad.
Well, it is highly likely that at least some of the accessories were at one point just part of the base product. So I think they were off by quite a bit more than $50. Even so, being above an already pretty high target price IS bad imo.
Wasn’t there also supposed to be a sale on VR games today?
Yup, I picked up a few wishlisted items for like 65% off
I meant a sale event. There are always a bunch of games on sale at any given time, but I thought there was supposed to be a big event this week. That was one of the main reasons people predicted the reveal of the Frame was going to be yesterday.
Ugh, I really hate those bullshit controllers. Index controllers are the best and I feel like I’m just going to use tethered HMDs forever because of it.
They sell a kit for 60 bucks with straps to turn them into the same style of controller as the index.
I saw that but it seems like they’re just hand straps and the grip is still a button instead of capacitive touch, which is exactly why the index is so immersive. It might not be awful but I’m still gonna hold off given the price and battery life. I already have a triple lighthouse setup and wire tethers, so the best bang for my buck would be upgrading my hmd only. Though the index is still solid, so honestly I’ll probably just keep rocking it until it dies.
the grip is still a button instead of capacitive touch
The Frame controllers have full finger tracking. According to reviews, this isn’t very useful without the hand straps, though.
