• Lemminary@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    generally don’t say that kind of thing to cops in the flesh

    Trust me, guy, we’re thinking it because we can also see your gun in the holster.

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        2 days ago

        I work in for a municipal government, and our City Hall and police station share a building. We’re polite to the police just like we are with anyone else, but ALL of us that work on the admin side of the building talk shit about the police behind their backs and think they’re a bunch of overpaid thugs who are a net negative to the community.

        It’s no different for you. People who hate you will still smile and say hello.

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          I’m sure they talk shit about you behind your back too; it’s part of the culture of employment alongside radically different positions.

          That’s just how people are. You’re neither a visionary for figuring it out, nor particularly insightful for not realizing it doesn’t apply to you.

          Again, I think you’re just vastly overestimating how much people hate the police because of the company you keep; echo chambers and such.

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            1 day ago

            People at the office, people at the school I teach nights at, people at the church I attend. They all have different groups that they talk bad about, and people talk bad about all of them.

            The difference is every single place I go that isn’t a police station people talk shit about cops.

            You’re hated, and it’s not the unjustified hate of racism, intolerance, or ignorance. You’re hated because you actively choose to drain society’s resources while stimping on people’s rights. You should be hated.

            Yeah - you may occasionally do something useful, but you’re a net drain on society and you should be ashamed of yourself and your entire profession for what you’ve become.

            • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
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              20 hours ago

              The difference is every single place I go that isn’t a police station people talk shit about cops.

              Someone who is employed to strategically and often deceptively visit consequence on you - while rarely helping you - will have no shortage of haters.

              But at the same time, there are plenty of more adult and rational people who realize law enforcement isn’t worthy of universal and unconditional contempt.

              You’re hated, and it’s not the unjustified hate of racism, intolerance, or ignorance. You’re hated because you actively choose to drain society’s resources while stimping on people’s rights. You should be hated.

              Only by people that really haven’t thought it through, i.e. people that think “cops” is a monolith and they’re ideas rather than people - antagonists in the game of Fun Crime.

              I’ve met plenty of ACABers and without exception they go from “omg u r evil” to “Oh, you’re a human being and law enforcement is more complex than I realized.”

              Yeah - you may occasionally do something useful, but you’re a net drain on society and you should be ashamed of yourself and your entire profession for what you’ve become.

              There isn’t really any political philosophy that thinks that way other than anarchists, and I view that “society is best when there are no laws” perspective as incredibly naive, so I shrug at your opinion.

              Definitely not ashamed of what I did - hope that doesn’t trouble you.

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                16 hours ago

                99.9% of law enforcement doesn’t require the kind of police forces we have. Why are armed goons used to hand out traffic tickets? In decades of issuing building code citations, I’ve never needed to carry a gun. And my fees are WAY higher. If I can walk up to an unidentified guy with a running chainsaw and give him a $200,000 fee for clear-cutting a lot without being in danger, you should be fine writing a speeding ticket.

                But the problem is you have an institutional attitude of cowardice. You’re like chihuahas who pretend not to be scared by being super aggressive, which makes people afraid of you, which makes them hate you, which makes everyone less safe.

                Why should anybody respect institutions made of violent, scared little bitches?

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                  12 hours ago

                  So you dialed in the last slice of my comment to argue the one point you wanted to pounce on because you sensed you weren’t winning the original argument. That’s interesting, but not surprising.

                  I’m not particularly violent, scared, little, or a bitch, but if you’re going to stake the entire rationale and funding behind the equipment and training modern law enforcement has on one guy who had zero say in even one agency, I think that’s pretty funny and also pretty typical of ACABers.

                  I think I wrote maybe one speeding ticket every two years or so? That was an extremely tiny slice of my job, but again, it is pretty typical ACAB perspective to have no idea what law enforcement does; that’s a fundamental building block of that kind of person - having no idea what you’re talking about but being enraged about it.

                  The funny part is you kinda answer your own perceived mystery on that bit. Yes, the gun is useless in 99.9% of police contacts (or more); that’s not what it’s for.