inari@piefed.zip to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 19 days agoIt is time to build the United States of Europeelpais.comexternal-linkmessage-square46linkfedilinkarrow-up11arrow-down10 cross-posted to: [email protected]
arrow-up11arrow-down1external-linkIt is time to build the United States of Europeelpais.cominari@piefed.zip to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 19 days agomessage-square46linkfedilink cross-posted to: [email protected]
minus-squareSkua@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·19 days ago…so there has not been an attempt like the EU
minus-squareCAVOK@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·19 days agoThe Hansa was something of a proto-EU.
minus-squareSkua@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·19 days agoThat’s an interesting comparison I hadn’t considered, but isn’t it more like the current EU than the hypothetical federalised EU under discussion?
minus-squaredeHaga@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·19 days agoThere has. The European Communities and the EEC. Neither were attempts to create a federation like US, China or Russia…
minus-squareSkua@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·19 days agoMate the EEC was one of the European Communities, and it ended because it became part of the EU. That’s not a separate attempt. That’s the same one.
minus-squaredeHaga@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·19 days agoLol no. The treaties of Maastricht, Nice and Lisbon turned a trade bloc into a political one. That’s centralising power, and it always fails.
minus-squareSkua@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·19 days ago “Lol no. Actually it was exactly what you said”
…so there has not been an attempt like the EU
The Hansa was something of a proto-EU.
That’s an interesting comparison I hadn’t considered, but isn’t it more like the current EU than the hypothetical federalised EU under discussion?
There has. The European Communities and the EEC. Neither were attempts to create a federation like US, China or Russia…
Mate the EEC was one of the European Communities, and it ended because it became part of the EU. That’s not a separate attempt. That’s the same one.
Lol no. The treaties of Maastricht, Nice and Lisbon turned a trade bloc into a political one.
That’s centralising power, and it always fails.