Do Greeks have astronomically high standards? The only thing indicating you’re not a cis woman is the trans flag pin. I haven’t heard your voice or seen other pics but I don’t really need to: if this is what you look like to strangers, there shouldn’t be any ambiguity whether you are a woman.
Hmm… This is hard to research so I’ll try my best so summarize for folks finding this, and I invite Phnelope to correct me if I’m wrong. I will be sounding like an LLM but please bear with me…
The first results I get for “σλαττινα” are Romanian, Czech, and other Slavic place names since “slatina” means “salt bog”. That’s not correct…
What you’re referring to is Greek Gen-Z slang, usually written as “σλατίνα” and documented, for example, in this news article (Greek).
What you first notice in the article before Firefox’s translation loads is the English word “trap”. Careful, that is also a slur for trans women but here it fortunately refers to trap music mostly by Thug Slime. He inspired girls to adopt a “Slime Love All the Time” (SLAT or SLATT, plus the feminine -ina ending) style, characterized by extreme femininity (makeup, colorful nails, plastic surgery) and revealing outfits. Think the Kardashians or Cardi B. It also contains “Latina” (Latin woman), which is associated with a darker skin tone and round curves.
Thug Slime’s trap music (also with hip-hop elements) shares some superficial similarities (synth drums) with OP’s favorite musician Pan Pan’s electropop, synthpop and indie dance songs but it’s otherwise a very different genre.
To OP:
There are many valid ways to be a woman. Don’t worry, there are boys who certainly don’t want a σλατίνα. Personally, as a mid-20s cishet Czech man, I’m rather repulsed by their hypersexual presentation and I’m sure some Greeks, even your age, are too… Even if they’re a minority, you are gorgeous and you only need to find one person who likes your style (and vice versa) to get a partner (if you choose to).
“Passing” generally refers to when a trans person’s gender can be generally correctly guessed by onlookers. When you go out like this, you’d have a hard time finding someone who wouldn’t think you’re a female, which means you are passing. Some elements of your body might not be as feminine as people expect but you’re successful at hiding them in this photo, which is a valid strategy and encouraged if it makes you feel comfortable. Of course, it takes effort such as shaving or makeup but cis women do it too, plus as the hormones start to do their thing, you’ll find it easier to present as a woman successfully. Only people who accept you as a woman, such as your friends or potentially partner(s) deserve to see/hear more of you than what you show in public.
Well I already have a partner<3 look you are right and yes im too early in my transitioning to get the full results. Also note I bearly have any people due to me being trans (cut me off) but honestly good riddance to me
What helped me was that I happen to have a very very overweight colleague. She’s absolutely not a model, but she is absolutely unambiguously a woman.
She does not need to look awesome to be a woman. You are not supposed to look like a good-looking woman. You are supposed to look like a woman. Take the least attractive cis woman that you would still never confuse for a cis man, and compare your outlook to that of hers. She is absolutely a woman, and if you look at least as woman as she does, then you look like a woman.
People can want whatever the fuck they want from a woman’s outlook. That their problem, not a problem of the woman.
I can want all the cider in my neighbouring shop for free. It doesn’t mean that the shop has to care. The shop is under no obligation to give me free cider. Even though I want them to give it to me.
And similarly, a lot of people want a woman to look good. But it does not mean the woman has to care. The woman is under no obligation to look good. Even though other people want her to look good.
Every cis woman has a right to not look good. And so do we. So do you. (And you also have a right to try to look good, and you I have met you IRL and know that you excercise that right with a lot of success.)
One more question to the end: Is a 85-year-old cis woman super sexy in your eyes? Probably not? Is she a woman in your eyes? Probably yes? Does she have a right to be called a woman although she is not sexy? Probably yes? Absolutely yes, I would say. A woman is a woman is a woman. Sexy or not.
Do Greeks have astronomically high standards? The only thing indicating you’re not a cis woman is the trans flag pin. I haven’t heard your voice or seen other pics but I don’t really need to: if this is what you look like to strangers, there shouldn’t be any ambiguity whether you are a woman.
Well look up “σλαττινα” that’s what the want for a girl. Also while Only the shadow and maybe the voice and the body give it away. Not sure tho
Hmm… This is hard to research so I’ll try my best so summarize for folks finding this, and I invite Phnelope to correct me if I’m wrong. I will be sounding like an LLM but please bear with me…
The first results I get for “σλαττινα” are Romanian, Czech, and other Slavic place names since “slatina” means “salt bog”. That’s not correct…
What you’re referring to is Greek Gen-Z slang, usually written as “σλατίνα” and documented, for example, in this news article (Greek).
What you first notice in the article before Firefox’s translation loads is the English word “trap”. Careful, that is also a slur for trans women but here it fortunately refers to trap music mostly by Thug Slime. He inspired girls to adopt a “Slime Love All the Time” (SLAT or SLATT, plus the feminine -ina ending) style, characterized by extreme femininity (makeup, colorful nails, plastic surgery) and revealing outfits. Think the Kardashians or Cardi B. It also contains “Latina” (Latin woman), which is associated with a darker skin tone and round curves.
Thug Slime’s trap music (also with hip-hop elements) shares some superficial similarities (synth drums) with OP’s favorite musician Pan Pan’s electropop, synthpop and indie dance songs but it’s otherwise a very different genre.
To OP:
There are many valid ways to be a woman. Don’t worry, there are boys who certainly don’t want a σλατίνα. Personally, as a mid-20s cishet Czech man, I’m rather repulsed by their hypersexual presentation and I’m sure some Greeks, even your age, are too… Even if they’re a minority, you are gorgeous and you only need to find one person who likes your style (and vice versa) to get a partner (if you choose to).
“Passing” generally refers to when a trans person’s gender can be generally correctly guessed by onlookers. When you go out like this, you’d have a hard time finding someone who wouldn’t think you’re a female, which means you are passing. Some elements of your body might not be as feminine as people expect but you’re successful at hiding them in this photo, which is a valid strategy and encouraged if it makes you feel comfortable. Of course, it takes effort such as shaving or makeup but cis women do it too, plus as the hormones start to do their thing, you’ll find it easier to present as a woman successfully. Only people who accept you as a woman, such as your friends or potentially partner(s) deserve to see/hear more of you than what you show in public.
Well I already have a partner<3 look you are right and yes im too early in my transitioning to get the full results. Also note I bearly have any people due to me being trans (cut me off) but honestly good riddance to me
Also the fact that someone took the time to research it blows my mind off
What helped me was that I happen to have a very very overweight colleague. She’s absolutely not a model, but she is absolutely unambiguously a woman.
She does not need to look awesome to be a woman. You are not supposed to look like a good-looking woman. You are supposed to look like a woman. Take the least attractive cis woman that you would still never confuse for a cis man, and compare your outlook to that of hers. She is absolutely a woman, and if you look at least as woman as she does, then you look like a woman.
People can want whatever the fuck they want from a woman’s outlook. That their problem, not a problem of the woman.
I can want all the cider in my neighbouring shop for free. It doesn’t mean that the shop has to care. The shop is under no obligation to give me free cider. Even though I want them to give it to me.
And similarly, a lot of people want a woman to look good. But it does not mean the woman has to care. The woman is under no obligation to look good. Even though other people want her to look good.
Every cis woman has a right to not look good. And so do we. So do you. (And you also have a right to try to look good, and you I have met you IRL and know that you excercise that right with a lot of success.)
One more question to the end: Is a 85-year-old cis woman super sexy in your eyes? Probably not? Is she a woman in your eyes? Probably yes? Does she have a right to be called a woman although she is not sexy? Probably yes? Absolutely yes, I would say. A woman is a woman is a woman. Sexy or not.
Unsexy women are women.