• InvaderDJ@alien.topB
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    3 years ago

    It will hilarious how much he had to break the machine to get those coolers in.

    The tech is cool though. I don’t think Apple will put active cooling into the Air though. The passive is good enough for what Apple wants with the Air and is one of the few ways they can differentiate between the Air and the base level Pro. As long as the throttling is within reason and only affects more pro workloads, I think the silence is a bigger advantage.

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        3 years ago

        He’s out of ideas so he has to do this nonsense for views.

        A channel like Gamers Nexus puts LTT to shame for PCMR. For Apple content there’s dozens of smaller channels.

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          3 years ago

          Linus shifted his content all towards making PCMR comedy now. Most of the jokes are too forced.

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          3 years ago

          Gamers Nexus is so engaging I’d rather just read some written article

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            3 years ago

            GN is meant to be informative over anything else, so you can make informed purchase decisions. I much prefer that to clickbait-oriented channels like LTT.

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              3 years ago

              That’s what I’ve said, for hard data I’d rather have it in a written form than suffer through bland and less time efficient video

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    3 years ago

    If you want to cool a MacBook Air more, an actually practical solution is to layer the ‘heatsink’ with (0.5mm) thermal pads to turn the bottom cover into a heat dissipater

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      3 years ago

      All while the chassis becomes even hotter than it already unbearably is. This is something I’ve done to some of my devices. They are untouchable and can no longer be placed on your lap(you know LAPtop) But sure that’s more practical. Jesus Christ

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        3 years ago

        Yea well I don’t remember the last time I used my laptop on my lap. Maybe years… I don’t even have this mod anymore like I said. Jesus Christ?

        • stuck_lozenge@alien.topB
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          3 years ago

          So to you, turning your chasis into an untouchable source of heat is “more practical” than the incorporation a cooling solution that makes it cooler and allows the device to run better due to less heat. Your metric of more practical is a perfect example of the responses In this thread. Illogical for the sake of it.

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            3 years ago

            Incorporating a cooling solution that doesn’t let you use the keyboard or IO is more practical? Illogical for the sake of it. With my solution only the bottom gets hotter. And you still wouldn’t burn yourself if you touched it.

            Did you even watch the video? You call that shit practical?

            I’m starting to think you’re lying about having done this yourself

      • Logseman@alien.topB
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        3 years ago

        Apple calls these devices portable computers, and doesn’t recommend them to be on your lap. They may have been used on laps a while ago when they comfortably worked on top of people’s legs with the help of the large sturdy bases that they used to have, but most portables are now too thin for that purpose. Aren’t they usually called Notebooks these days, like in NotebookCheck?

  • FreeCloud4K@alien.topB
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    3 years ago

    I do not want a fan in the MacBook Air. The fact it is fabless is a major selling point for me.

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    3 years ago

    Is there a Linus blocker browser extension? I am tired of seeing his face and his shitty videos.

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    3 years ago

    I thought this video was hilarious. It’s the techie version of watching Charles and Shaq talk about the nba. You shouldn’t take it too seriously.

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    3 years ago

    Looks like AirJet is sending out these things with sample modified MBAs so YouTubers can destroy functional computers and turn them in to e-waste to sell Air Jet’s products. As somebody else pointed out, PC World did a similar video on the same topic at almost the same time.

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      3 years ago

      Hopefully the only people harassed were the makers of this device, reckless speculation but Linus probably stole it or extorted the company for a share of the licensing in order to feature it on his harassment hour/ I mean YouTube channel

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    3 years ago

    It’s interesting but tbh the air needs to be purchased for the GOOD reason/profession.

    For work I use a macbook M1 pro, I can’t use a fanless device because I compile a lot and sooner or later it will be very hot I fear.

    Someone with a lighter workload or doing everything on a cloud or something may truly benefit from the macbook air however.

    If you need an active cooling, you purchase a macbook with an active cooling, no need to really change the air, just it’s not for all usages

    • DanielPhermous@alien.topB
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      3 years ago

      I can’t use a fanless device because I compile a lot and sooner or later it will be very hot I fear.

      The M2 Air will not get hot. The chip simply doesn’t use enough power to generate that kind of heat.

      • i5-2520M@alien.topB
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        3 years ago

        I have a rando Ryzen HP with fans, and my friend’s M1 air does get hotter while gaming / sustained loads lasting 5-15 minutes. And yes the Ryzen does use more power, but it is also less powerful, but not by an insane margin.

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    Why didnt they just replace the backplate with a specialized one instead of removing components? :(

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      3 years ago

      I think that mainly to show that it can fit in Air’s design thickness-wise.

  • A-Delonix-Regia@alien.topOPB
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    3 years ago

    TLDW: This video shows this device called the “Frore AirJet”, which is an active cooler that uses piezoelectrics rather than fans to push air through at 1700 pascals.

    The Verge article on them: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/27/23975368/frore-airjet-apple-macbook-air-fanless-mems

    The LTT team had to do a lot of modifications (remove the speakers to use the speaker vents for airflow, and remove the MagSafe port, one USB-C port, the keyboard’s input cables, and the Wi-Fi antenna), but they were able to get the following results:

    Cinebench score Power usage
    Normal 15" M2 Air 8200 Around 14.5W
    Modded 15" M2 Air 8600 Around 19W
    M2 Pro 8700 Around 19.5W
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      3 years ago

      All that for a relatively tiny bump? I thought it would be a lot more drastic

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        3 years ago

        the 13" macbook pro is no longer being made, so you can’t get this sustained performance in M3 and newer

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        3 years ago

        It’s extra dumb because

        1. you are pulling significantly more power for a tiny performance bump, so less “power on time” for the same device

        2. that computer he’s trying to make exists and called MacBook Pro m2. Now MacBook Pro m3

        Why would they degrade the user experience for MacBook Air while increasing performance on LONG and intense applications, a case NOT expected by the MacBook Air customer and also step on the toes of MacBook Pro.

        This product is dumb and good thing it doesn’t exist lol.

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          You actually don’t know what you’re talking about, why are Apple fanatics so confidently ignorant. It’s performing BETTER because it has a higher thermal headroom and still runs cooler. You’re literally complimenting Apple for have poor thermals with your roundabout logic. Astonishing the mental gymnastics you’re pulling off.

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            It’s performing 5-7% better for 30% less battery life while a similarly priced, slightly more expensive 14 inch MacBook has much better cooling and better features with even more battery life. This doesn’t solve a problem it makes the air a worse product by lowering battery. The air is for nothing more than light work. I can’t imagine anyone who wants one of those would say “yes I’d rather have 30% less battery life for 5% more performance and 1 C cooler on the chassis”.

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      3 years ago

      I don’t get it. Based on the results wouldn’t using more Watts be worse?

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    3 years ago

    Why Linus hates Apple so much, of course he would not like to disappoint his PC friends on his channel but at least be logical.