MizuTama [he/him, any]

Yeah, cuz you’re a cracker engaging in white chauvinism with a red coat to justify letting oppressed people die while not acting

You’re reason POC don’t trust white people, not the reactionaries that are willing to say to our face they’ll just let us all die.

Everyone in the imperial core

Hi again! This is you! Now maybe I’m just an illiterate black too eager to defend Massa but from what my small mind understands, “Everyone,” isn’t “white.”

So when my small stupid black boy brain reads that and is concerned about how this rhetoric is used for self-flaggation by white cowards that want it as an justification as to why their inaction isn’t just an excuse to abandon us and other oppressed people and sit on their lazy asses, I guess I just misunderstood and forgot that WE AREN’T PEOPLE and thus aren’t considered, “Everyone.” I’ll make sure to remember that and know it next time a white person wants to engage in their stupid fucking white guilt.

Also, we do enjoy the benefits of the exploitation of the third world, but at lesser degrees, not to correct you with my small Black ideas.

Quote it then. Where did I say anything on them?

Well I guess this a new level of “I don’t see color” wholly denying the fact that non white people live in the imperial core. Or a new level of illiteracy reading “Black or brown” as white.

Are you physically white, or just spiritually?

Everyone in the imperial core

Damn, didn’t realize I was white. I’ll go apologize for the blackface.

Need to find who keeps perming my hair in my sleep though, shits weird and I want my luscious 2C white blonde Aryan hair back since we’re all white!

You ain’t ever hear of Original Sin theology?

Okay, so do we start with the Blacks and browns like usual when we seek retribution or we going for something more modern with the gays?

That’s basically my stance. And there isn’t an issue with liking and wanting human art! It’s exactly what I mean when I said people that value it will seek it out.

You can argue how automation in a socialist society can be used to better people’s lives, but you can never argue that automating such a creative process so fundamental to human expression that it has been used since we were cave men is not a bad thing, let alone a good thing to “increase creativity” no matter what economic system present.

This makes a lot of assumptions.

1. Everyone is trying to make a masterpiece. Not everyone is and some people want to just kit-bash things together. I’ve been playing VNs from my childhood that are just people stealing assets or using quickly gathered photos to put together a story that was interesting instead of obsessing over every detail. They still had some care for their craft, but didn’t care for meticulous control over every aspect. No different than making art out of hundreds of rocks you find that you leave intact otherwise. Would a real craftsman only use rocks they handcraft to suit their exact image? Maybe the creative vision of the artist requires a lack of spirit and soul in certain parts? For something so valuable and long-lasting human creativity must be a fragile thing to be extinguished by a probability machine.

2. Most people that want to put hard-work into art still will. It’s like complaining that photographers are trying to skimp on hard work since they aren’t trying to choose the right colors and brushstrokes for the project they want. The only way it undermines unappreciated artists is because it financially harms them. If there is no financial need or incentives due to a system that makes such redundant, what harm is it causing? The people that just want to look at pretty things already have chosen alternatives throughout history. There are people that stare at the stars, sky, or even just bloodstains because its visually interesting without a damned care about “human spirit.” Automating it, can be plenty good, is the photograph bad because artists no long choose every color in capturing as scene? Is the typewriter bad because you lose the complete flexibility of how your script expresses itself? If people want to and care about that aspect they will.

Hell, there are entire fields of art I have zero care for in creative aspects. Never gave a damn about sculptures outside of their technical difficult, the vision can be damned, I just like seeing a human with shitty tools accomplish it, which auto rules AI out. Some types I only care about because they look pretty, like a lot of anime-styled art, though not all. And there are plenty that only are particularly desirable for me when I’m trying to suss out the creators meaning such as horror-based work or essentially all creative writing.

For me, I’m obsessed with my own writing voice so I refuse to use LLMs for my writing in almost any capacity on that motive alone. I also prefer drawing my own art, but that’s because I like drawing, if it wasn’t for the horribleness of the AI industry in so many ways there are plenty of cases where I would find an image to be “good enough” for whatever I want it for, like a tabletop character design, Hell, even since I started playing I only rarely drew or commissioned them and instead just found a picture I liked that looked, “close enough.”

This is either Luddism cosplaying as something else, or your argument implies a doubt about the inherent meaning of art itself as if it has meaning, people will seek that meaning either way. The main issues I find with generative AI are economic, environmental and honor-based with how it is working out. IDK though, when I have an inability to understand where a large percent of people are coming from on things like this I just blame the neurodivergence, so maybe I’m just missing something.

There is only one road left: Resistance. Dignity is never given, it must be claimed.

This letter reminds me of the introduction to Newton’s Revolutionary Suicide, particularly when Huey is summarizing what he believes the idea means:

Revolutionary suicide does not mean that I and my comrades have a death wish; it means just the opposite. We have such a strong desire to live with hope and human dignity that existence without them is impossible. When reactionary forces crush us, we must move against these forces, even at the risk of death. We will have to be driven out with the stick.

The metric is simple. Why second-guess it? Rents down = good for renters. If you want them up, you’re a fucking landlord.

You want rent to fund the next project? Then you’re an austerity nut.

For context, that user generally wants China’s government to recentralize to a degree and think these things are an “issue” insofar as the local governments are essentially filled with Western neoliberal brain worms and need stricter oversight and centralization to prevent dumb neoliberalism. I don’t think they want higher rent, but believe that local governments do due to landlordism brain worms.

I think (again, this is how I read the comment) the core of the frustration is they feel like the financial sector is making bank off this, and because it was done relatively recklessly, some of the massive amounts of resources being used to manage the falling prices aren’t being used in other sectors, which is contributing to stagnant wages, an absurd young unemployment and a continuous deflationary spiral that aggrevates the other two. (I’m realizing I’ve read far too many of their comments lol)

I will let you know many refer to xiaohongshu as Hexbear’s resident doomer, so you aren’t the first to feel that way lol. Some of their comments I’ve gathered also work within a neoliberal framework as the user fully believes much of China’s economic policy is working within it and are meant to highlight the impossibility of solving those issues within its framing as a rhetorical tool for a break from western neo-economic policy.

Frankly, I don’t spend nearly enough time on economic studies and theory to dismiss it myself, and most the time I’ve seen people argue against their ideas on our side they just resort to calling the user names so was also curious how grad would interpret things.

Okay. This is just a bad way of percieving a real-estate market because property can be rented or sold off. The price of rent matches the service of the debts plus any depreciation. If it’s not going to break even or profit in the long term then it would be SOLD as soon as possible.

If it’s being rented for a low price, the debt is NOT through the roof. I am skeptical that debt is a problem.

Won’t get disagreement from me here, I presumed costs would be cut to minimize losses as well. Makes sense to me just seemed like a different type of potential issue than how the short comment above may have some assume (and would lead to different criticisms) so wanted to clarify.

I mean, I don’t think it’s a contradictory standard than Western governments, as I don’t know if @[email protected] has expressed some other standard for Western governments, and what I’ve seen is usually critical of them as well. The idea from the comment they posted on hexbear appears to be that the local governments were investing in this non-real growth sector to the point with the decreases in rent, they don’t have the funding for other infrastructure growth and are having to increasingly leverage debt to get things done since they can’t extra themselves from the issue.

The crux, from my understanding, wasn’t that rent going down is bad, but that it’s going down due to massive capacity that is heavily invested in by the local government, and such investment was done under the assumption of increasing prices, and with decreasing costs, they lack funding for some of the other projects and with the central government trying to reduce this behavior, are having to rely on other means of acquiring debt.

https://archive.ph/xulPa here is an archive link.

Evidence was provided by an admin and user was banned subsequently due to evidence review and found to be egregious.

You’re an authoritarian for this one tankie shill /s

Everytime a French company has assets taken, an angel sprouts its wings.

I mean, labor aristocrats are still be proletariat. Socialism would be in the best class interest overall, but would cause a considerable decrease in the standard of living during the transitional state (I’d have to lose my treats during a revolution? ). Due to imperialism, the current unipolar order elevates entire nations to the level of labor aristocrats, meaning they have been sufficiently drained of revolutionary will. With this comes a destruction of solidarity with the rest of the proletariat. From my understanding, the idea behind multipolarity is that the ability to continue keeping the entire population of nations or international blocs in a state of labor aristocracy is vastly diminished or outright impossible in a multipolar world, as it gives nations who experience the worst of the exploitation bargaining power to uplift their nations and break away from the imperialists they are being subjected to. This would decrease the rate of profits, leading the group’s bourgeoisie to relocalize the formerly exported exploitation, rapidly deteriorating the standards of living of those at home. This would drop the standards of living to the point that the offerings of the bourgeoisie are no longer sufficient for that nation’s or nations’ masses, leaving them better primed for revolution.

Edit: Sidenote: I don’t actually think it’s imperative for us Western Marxists to necessarily fully comprehend the idea behind it, as I don’t see what action we take that would call for pushing for multipolarity that isn’t already done under the banner of anti-imperialism.

Stupid tankies do not consider the revolutionary potential of Radio Free Asia

Okay, but have you considered that this time is the time they were actually lying and they are now neolibs dressed up in a red banner. Insert some racist stereotypes to call them untrustworthy and remember that neoliberalism is the greatest form of governance ever (quote Churchill, QUOTE CHURCHILL) and obviously they recognized their sins that capitalism and liberal democracy are the best thing since sliced bread!

I’ve been spending too much time on reddit lately

I mean true but also I thought they literally said that’s what they were going to do. Like I swear we are constantly caught off guard by them going to do exactly what they say they’re going to do