We think Minds tried something like this (though it might be different tiers) and it didn’t exactly go well, forcing users to pay one way or the other always leads to economic pressures to keep users around, even if they are being toxic at least from what we have observed.

clashing with their users’ need to stay isolated from users who are toxic to them.

Sadly Lemmy does not solve this problem as the creators think like a corporation or do not want to be fully cut off from other users and thus do not have proper blocking (which is something built into ActivityPub mind you), for now it is only one way blocking which does not solve being isolated from toxic users as it still allows for some toxic behaviour etc.

If Lemmy ever gets that feature it would actually prove that it is dedicated to user safety, but a lot of people in the open source social media world seem to be ‘concerned’ with not being able to see everything due to entitlement, as others unrelated to Lemmy also are lacking the same or similar features.

Maybe, but social problems cannot entirely be solved with technology.

Yes, I meant more long term but didn’t express that fully. So you are correct, corporate social media will go that way eventually unless they do the things we recommended.

Corporations cannot create nontoxic social media, the incentives will always be there to make it toxic.

The only way to do it is something like mastodon where actual people run it and thus can deal with people who are being toxic either by blocking etc because the fear of losing money, or the likelihood of the entire site/platform disappearing etc just isn’t there (obvioiusly individuals sites go down sometimes but the entire network is unlikely to disappear), or by the use of people explaining why what they did was wrong and the toxic people listen.

Edit: If Bluesky actually ever becomes decentralised as in users can run their own servers and federate or block other servers then perhaps it might become good, but until such a time then I do not trust them.

They should also make a non-profit foundation if they want to be seen as trustworthy, so that they can’t ever be sold off.

Those are the only way we and many others will ever trust them.

Today we learned about Bliss Stage which sounds a lot better than F.A.T.A.L in some regards.

There’s also Thirsty Sword Lesbians which focuses a lot on consent.

Thanks for your reply and further clarifying your point. 🙂

but there’s not much food on it, so probably not worth planting outside of its native range.

It is important to not plant things outside of their native range. However, plants and animals do not exist only for food. They exist so they should continue to and should be helped, not as something useful for creatures but because they should and because they help life no matter whether they are seemingly immediately useful for creatures or not.

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We understand but we don’t think it’s good to forget all the other shit they pull.

‘Created’ is a strong word.

I was talking more generally but thank you for the information.

We hope cloudflare shut down over this. They are basically a giant botnet and protect fash. The internet would be better without them.

Edit: Okay, we were slighty incorrect over the fash part, when pushed and seemingly only when pushed will they block them or shut them down. It’s true they still allow themselves to be used as a botnet though.

It looks neat but it’s very limited at the moment, both in genres and artists. We did some testing and it only got one of the artists we searched for and none of the genres so far, sadly.

Ah, well we are working from different base assumptions then. I’m not cynical, I’m an optimist but yes still an idealist.

I don’t really get your point about politics as politics is everything so yes, it is a way to determine who’s right or the most ethical as well as many other things, I think you might be referring to only electoral politics, otherwise I’m not sure how you could be seeing politics as a way to not determine that.

I disagree, people are forced into things they do not want to do all the time.

Maybe, but it could be a lot fairer than it currently is, my hope is one day it won’t be necessary though or at least not to the same degree that it is now.

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That’s all we can think of so far.

I don’t think money or any form of it is the only way to reward people for their work (not that all people need a reward in that sense). I think that is it is might be because of this current system showing that the only way to be rewarded is through monetary compensation.

Also, I’m going to quibble here that the only reason why a lot of jobs currently done require a ‘reward’ is because of the conditions under which people labour, remove those conditions and there will be less of a need for incentives to keep people doing things they either don’t like (because they won’t do them and others that do like them will do them instead if they are truly necessary), or do like but not under such conditions such as long hours or under a strict hierarchy.

Right, which is why we need to stop money existing or other forms of economies that allow for wealth/power inequality

… what year do you think it is?

Well, the only reason I can see them liking proprietary is because that money still exists and that money allows propietary companies (and open source to be fair) to do more. If money didn’t exist there would be no need for proprietary companies nor a need to ‘protect’ their ‘property’ and in my perfect world money doesn’t exist, therefore no need for proprietary code/products.