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det_nya_livet@aggregatet.orgOPto Privacy@lemmy.ml•Email alternative for organizationsEnglish1·5 months agoThank you for this - yes, I understand that this is a tall order, but I also can’t help but think that most of these requirements are fairly common individually?
As for address stability, it would be good to have a point of contact that’s easy to put on a website or flyers or whatever.
Thinking aloud here, I guess one option could be to have a signal account and a setup similar to what is described under the ‘Start Your Own Announcements-Only Service on Signal’ heading here: https://crimethinc.com/2024/05/27/the-sunbird-how-to-start-an-announcements-only-thread-on-signal-and-how-organizers-in-austin-used-one-to-coordinate-solidarity-with-palestine to be able to check the incoming messages from multiple devices. I guess some level of tech-savviness would be needed for the setup of multiple Signal accounts on a single machine if people are using their own hardware, but otoh it also means minimal setup for people contacting the organization. If more than five (max number of linked signal devices) people are responding to messages, group chats with the incoming user, the org account and the account of the person responding could be setup for searchability etc. This solves some problems but creates others…
The issue you’re describing is why I’m not keen on email, and why I mention Signal as an alternative I’ve considered - Signal is a user-friendly way of ensuring both encryption and that meta-data isn’t accessible to providers on either end unless someone’s device is compromised.
The reason I’m interested in encryption is that I want a higher baseline of security for these orgs. In a changing political landscape it is hard to say what may become sensitive over time. Hypothetically, if one of these orgs is distributing contraceptives internationally we want neither meta-data about who is contacting them nor message contents to be accessible to providers. Since encryption is a pain with email we can assume both are accessible to providers when using that. Ideally I want encryption to be an easy default for both the orgs and the people contacting them.
det_nya_livet@aggregatet.orgOPto Privacy@lemmy.ml•Email alternative for organizationsSvenska1·5 months agoAny thoughts on how to handle the encryption aspect here? :)
det_nya_livet@aggregatet.orgOPto Privacy@lemmy.ml•Email alternative for organizationsSvenska1·5 months agoRight, forwarders solves the password issue, but the encryption issues remains. Any thoughts on how to handle that? PGP in my experience is non-trivial to set up correctly, and even when correctly setup does not protect metadata.
det_nya_livet@aggregatet.orgOPto Privacy@lemmy.ml•Email alternative for organizationsSvenska3·5 months agoThe purpose of the email addresses tends to be something like [email protected] - it’s the central place outsiders contact the org. A common way to work with it would be that emails are checked during the orgs weekly/monthly meeting, incoming emails are discussed, and someone is tasked with writing a reply with the group’s response to the email. I haven’t seen mailing lists being used for this type of thing, but I guess that could be a solution for the password sharing, but at the cost of having individual email addresses in-house - some type of individual accounts would probably be necessary either way to get away from the whole shared passwords situations…
The appeal of Signal is that it’s managed and has some level of security by default. My impression of securely configuring email, in particular on someone else’s hardware, is that it is very technically challenging, but it’s also not something I’ve ever attempted. Would you say my impression is correct?
I’m slowly also realizing that this is probably also a key requirement for a lot of these orgs: they do not have dedicated IT people or a lot of cash. A lot of the time there’s someone with some IT interest, but rarely with time or interest in long term admin-ing.
Och line of sight är just line of sight? Att stå på parallelgatan tex är kört, om det finns hus mellan?
Hur många sändare har du? :) har du någon känsla för hur det funkar i stadsmiljö? försöker få grepp om hur skalbart det är. Kan å ena sidan tänka att det för min del räcker om folk i min närhet kan koppla upp sig mot varandra, men vore ju också fett om det gick att nå fler än bara det gänget :)
Betyder det att han nu blev intaggad i och kan se den här tråden, eller hur funkar det? :)
(Sidogrej: mitt konto defaultade till att ha undetermined som enda förvalda språk, vilket betydde att alla inlägg som var taggade som svenska doldes. Kanske något för admins att se över? Kunde inte se svar i trådar osv eftersom att de filtrerades bort.)
Jag tänker att det finns större etiska dilemman än plagiat. Några andra konkreta problem:
Jag tänker också att fördumningen du nämner behöver beskrivas ytterligare. Det handlar inte bara om att studenter inte lär sig saker, eller om att folks kritiska tänkande urholkas, det handlar också om att vi urvattnar våra källor till information i precis alla led, och överväldigar de system som finns för att sålla fram trovärdig information. Forskarvärlden har under lång tid kämpat mot ett hav av undermålig forskning, och nu är det plötsligt i princip gratis att producera skräpartiklar. Flera open source-projekt har stängt ner sina bug bounty-program eller har behövt börja sålla hårdare när folk försöker bidra kod pga stora mängder spam genererat av LLMer.
Något kan vara användbart för enskilda men ha såpass negativa effekter på samhället att det ändå inte är något vi borde ägna oss åt. Min känsla inför LLMer att de är ett sådant fenomen.