I pointed out a problem. I admit I don’t know a solution for it, but I consider the party’s lack of credibility to be the most immediate problem it needs to overcome in order to pose a serious threat to republicans.
So, I asked what your solution was, and you were like “I organize! Be a prepper! Mutual aid!” None of which actually address the problem we were talking about.
How do we restore trust in democratic primaries? I mean, besides telling anyone who notices the problem to shut up?
Now that’s actual real question that contributes to the conversation.
I mean, besides telling anyone who notices the problem to shut up?
I’ll tell whiny little crybabies to shut up all day long if they’re not contributing shit. You should try it, it’s harder than snarky thought-terminating cliches but you can make actual progress that way.
Now that’s actual real question that contributes to the conversation.
It’s core to everything I’ve been saying so far. So what’s your solution? I don’t have one, which means I must be silent about the problem. But you surely have a solution, right? You need solutions to talk about problems, or you’re a whiny little crybaby who isn’t contributing shit, in your words.
Organize offline, meet people in your community, shitposting online isn’t going to do anything. Reference my previous comment, organize locally with like minded people and start preparing for things to get really bad.
ORGANIZE IN REAL LIFE AND STOP NAYSAYING ANY ATTEMPTS AT PROGRESS.
Nope, you demanded concrete steps from me. I want them from you. “Talk to people in your community and become a prepper” isn’t a solution, it’s a dismissal. It does nothing to restore trust in the party, but that’s not the idea. The idea is silence.
Organizing and acting is how you accomplish goals.
That you see organizing and establishing community as “dismissal” and “prepping” speaks volumes.
We’ve made great strides locally, what used to be a “queer hiking group” is now talking about secure communications and organizing a range day soon. We’re making actual progress and forming a support network for our friends and families. But yeah I’m not doing anything and your demoralizing progressive voters online is going to accomplish a lot.
Edit: I can give you more concrete steps if you’d like. If you’re willing to give me a rough geographic location I can probably even locate existing group(s) around you that would likely be receptive to help
Organizing and acting is how you accomplish goals.
We’re talking about a specific goal here, or at least I am. How do we get from mutual aid community gardens and goin’ to the gun range, to reliable primaries?
You organize and push policies you want. Push for RCV, push for candidates that’ll support what you want, show up to protest with your peers. You organize petition drives and collect signatures. Community organizing is a field all it’s own and there are a dozen ways to engage but engaging is the critical part. There are other steps to take that organization will be important for but I’m not going to start fedposting. Being organized is the only path forward.
I pointed out a problem. I admit I don’t know a solution for it, but I consider the party’s lack of credibility to be the most immediate problem it needs to overcome in order to pose a serious threat to republicans.
So, I asked what your solution was, and you were like “I organize! Be a prepper! Mutual aid!” None of which actually address the problem we were talking about.
How do we restore trust in democratic primaries? I mean, besides telling anyone who notices the problem to shut up?
Now that’s actual real question that contributes to the conversation.
I’ll tell whiny little crybabies to shut up all day long if they’re not contributing shit. You should try it, it’s harder than snarky thought-terminating cliches but you can make actual progress that way.
It’s core to everything I’ve been saying so far. So what’s your solution? I don’t have one, which means I must be silent about the problem. But you surely have a solution, right? You need solutions to talk about problems, or you’re a whiny little crybaby who isn’t contributing shit, in your words.
Organize offline, meet people in your community, shitposting online isn’t going to do anything. Reference my previous comment, organize locally with like minded people and start preparing for things to get really bad.
ORGANIZE IN REAL LIFE AND STOP NAYSAYING ANY ATTEMPTS AT PROGRESS.
Nope, you demanded concrete steps from me. I want them from you. “Talk to people in your community and become a prepper” isn’t a solution, it’s a dismissal. It does nothing to restore trust in the party, but that’s not the idea. The idea is silence.
Organizing and acting is how you accomplish goals.
That you see organizing and establishing community as “dismissal” and “prepping” speaks volumes.
We’ve made great strides locally, what used to be a “queer hiking group” is now talking about secure communications and organizing a range day soon. We’re making actual progress and forming a support network for our friends and families. But yeah I’m not doing anything and your demoralizing progressive voters online is going to accomplish a lot.
Edit: I can give you more concrete steps if you’d like. If you’re willing to give me a rough geographic location I can probably even locate existing group(s) around you that would likely be receptive to help
We’re talking about a specific goal here, or at least I am. How do we get from mutual aid community gardens and goin’ to the gun range, to reliable primaries?
You organize and push policies you want. Push for RCV, push for candidates that’ll support what you want, show up to protest with your peers. You organize petition drives and collect signatures. Community organizing is a field all it’s own and there are a dozen ways to engage but engaging is the critical part. There are other steps to take that organization will be important for but I’m not going to start fedposting. Being organized is the only path forward.