Incorrect. It’s not about the fact that they’re communists. Rather, it’s about their strict nationalistic feelings towards Russia and China. They claim that these regimes are communist (which is incorrect), and thus support any action by these nations. They enable and overlook oppressive actions commited by them, while being quick to point out the oppressive actions of the other countries (which are openly capitalist).
I’ve seen many tankies debate with other people, and they frequently employ tactics used by conspiracy theorists, such as selectively accepting sources, and denouncing everything else as propoganda. I’ve even seen a tankie denounce a news outlet, then use the same outlet in the same thread to argue their point.
I say this as someone who finds Marxism appealing, by the way. So I am in no way (as far as I can tell) biased against these people.
I’ll emphasize what I said, as I believe I already covered what you’re talking about:
People taking issue with the stances and positions Marxists have, or Marxism in general, tend to not like them.
Marxists in general tend to critically support Russia’s opposition to US Hegemony (and no further than that), and support “AES” (Actually Existing Socialism) countries like the PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. Not a single Marxist believes Russia post-USSR is Socialist, though the vast majority of Marxists do believe the PRC is Socialist. Exceptions include the Peruvian Marxist-Leninist-Maoists (not to be confused with Marxism-Leninism Mao Zedong Thought, which is Marxism-Leninism under Mao but does not see Mao’s contributions as universally applicable), or Trotskyists.
I think you’d better understand the points Marxists make if you spent some time trying to actually understand their viewpoints, instead of misframing them in this manner. What, for example, do you find appealing about Marxism that stands in contradiction to the actual stances Marxists hold, not your misrepresentations of them?
Incorrect. It’s not about the fact that they’re communists. Rather, it’s about their strict nationalistic feelings towards Russia and China. They claim that these regimes are communist (which is incorrect), and thus support any action by these nations. They enable and overlook oppressive actions commited by them, while being quick to point out the oppressive actions of the other countries (which are openly capitalist).
I’ve seen many tankies debate with other people, and they frequently employ tactics used by conspiracy theorists, such as selectively accepting sources, and denouncing everything else as propoganda. I’ve even seen a tankie denounce a news outlet, then use the same outlet in the same thread to argue their point.
I say this as someone who finds Marxism appealing, by the way. So I am in no way (as far as I can tell) biased against these people.
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I’ll emphasize what I said, as I believe I already covered what you’re talking about:
Marxists in general tend to critically support Russia’s opposition to US Hegemony (and no further than that), and support “AES” (Actually Existing Socialism) countries like the PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. Not a single Marxist believes Russia post-USSR is Socialist, though the vast majority of Marxists do believe the PRC is Socialist. Exceptions include the Peruvian Marxist-Leninist-Maoists (not to be confused with Marxism-Leninism Mao Zedong Thought, which is Marxism-Leninism under Mao but does not see Mao’s contributions as universally applicable), or Trotskyists.
I think you’d better understand the points Marxists make if you spent some time trying to actually understand their viewpoints, instead of misframing them in this manner. What, for example, do you find appealing about Marxism that stands in contradiction to the actual stances Marxists hold, not your misrepresentations of them?