They didn’t technically vote for Trump. Which I don’t say to absolve them of blame, but this particular thread of comments was pedantry over how many people voted for Trump.
Absolutely nothing… hence the It needs to change bit.
Realistically it’s the same question I could pose you saying just play the game… What exactly does picking the “lesser of two evils” net us? A race to the bottom. It’s not ideal nor does it work. The most recent election is a perfect example of this.
MAGA played the game better than liberals. They got Trump. He’s effectively a third party candidate. Republicans hated him. But liberals whine about “lesser of two evils” while maga voted.
The only pathways are direct voter ballot initiativesmin the states that have them (only 26 states do) and progressive candidates and voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.
A third of eligible voters didn’t vote. The remaining people who did vote were almost evenly split. So, in rough numbers, 1/3rd of American voters put us all in this mess.
Exactly one organization is to blame, the one that finally got Biden to step down long after it was clear he had no chance, just to replace him with someone who promises to change nothing.
The only reasonable explanation is that the Democrats threw the election on purpose. They very well know what it takes to motivate the voters and they did the exact opposite by putting Republicans on the campaign stage with Harris.
I might, outside of the beef with Harris, that are kinda right. Dem advisors seem to have deliberately sunk the campaign once they took over and they seem to be pushing for another loss by moving even more right.
Here’s a simpler explanations: DNC is an umbrella party with many different factions. Sometimes they miscalculate, make mistakes, and are raked over coals for it.
Compare that with RNC. Their voters show up to vote for R no matter what RNC does.
It’s not DNC management’s duty to go left. It’s the duty of American leftists to push them left and withholding votes isn’t the way to do it.
I’d just like to caveat that a slim majority of American voters outdid themselves to undo decades of past hard-won progress.
Not even that. The majority of voters, 50.2%, voted for Harris or third party.
And how many eligible voters didn’t bother to vote? They’re also equally responsible for this.
They didn’t technically vote for Trump. Which I don’t say to absolve them of blame, but this particular thread of comments was pedantry over how many people voted for Trump.
“Or third party”
I see the problem…
A two party system that uses first past the post?
Needs to change.
Yes. But until it does you play the game as it currently works.
You vote for the best candidate?
There is no such thing as a “best candidate”.
The best candidate on the ballot, genius.
I wouldn’t exactly define this current situation as working, would you?
What does “pretending we have a different system” get you?
Absolutely nothing… hence the It needs to change bit.
Realistically it’s the same question I could pose you saying just play the game… What exactly does picking the “lesser of two evils” net us? A race to the bottom. It’s not ideal nor does it work. The most recent election is a perfect example of this.
MAGA played the game better than liberals. They got Trump. He’s effectively a third party candidate. Republicans hated him. But liberals whine about “lesser of two evils” while maga voted.
The only pathways are direct voter ballot initiativesmin the states that have them (only 26 states do) and progressive candidates and voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.
And this is how you have to do it in a two-party FPtP system.
That’s exactly how the Tea Party turned the GOP into the mess it is now.
A third of eligible voters didn’t vote. The remaining people who did vote were almost evenly split. So, in rough numbers, 1/3rd of American voters put us all in this mess.
No, 2/3rds.
The third-ish that voted for Trump, and the third-ish that didn’t vote for Harris.
In other words, the majority of Americans either wanted this government, or didn’t care if this was the government.
Exactly one organization is to blame, the one that finally got Biden to step down long after it was clear he had no chance, just to replace him with someone who promises to change nothing.
The only reasonable explanation is that the Democrats threw the election on purpose. They very well know what it takes to motivate the voters and they did the exact opposite by putting Republicans on the campaign stage with Harris.
Oh piss off
I might, outside of the beef with Harris, that are kinda right. Dem advisors seem to have deliberately sunk the campaign once they took over and they seem to be pushing for another loss by moving even more right.
Here’s a simpler explanations: DNC is an umbrella party with many different factions. Sometimes they miscalculate, make mistakes, and are raked over coals for it.
Compare that with RNC. Their voters show up to vote for R no matter what RNC does.
It’s not DNC management’s duty to go left. It’s the duty of American leftists to push them left and withholding votes isn’t the way to do it.
Exactly.
So, obviously, trying to appeal to them is at best a waste of time.
The threat to withhold our vote is the only leverage we have to effect change within the party. Of course I’m voing to use it.