Danny Masterson has lost his appeal of his rape convictions from 2023 as a three-judge panel upheld his 30-year prison sentence.
      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        12 days ago

        and like cowards fled to EUROPE to avoid controversy in the states. it was right to “shit” on MEG in family guy. its a thing for rich white people facing racism, rape, Molestation,etc/ flee to a country that is not aware of the drama back in the states. Also japan is another favorite spot.

        also funny that not long after ellen degeneres fled to europe after diddy was charged, hmm looks like she could be involved too.

      • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
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        12 days ago

        I swear people online never actually think about anything, it’s all just knee-jerk reactionary crap.

        Honestly, it is totally expected that some/most friends would stand by their friend when being accused of something, especially if they never saw anything like that. Supporting a friend being accused of something means absolutely nothing on its own, especially in the beginning. What people need to be thinking about is if/when they stopped being supportive.

        For whatever reason, people seem to believe that everyone that’s a predator is making that obvious to their friends, and those friends were either in on it, or at least not opposed. Sometimes, it is the whole group, like with the recent college rape stuff… but quite often the predator is hiding that side of them both publicly and privately, even from their friends.

        Not all allegations are real, it’s just as easy to falsely claim abuse as it is for an abuser to lie about doing it. One is not inherently easier to lie about. Some people abuse this to try and destroy someone’s life, especially out of spite or if they think they can get something out of it.

        Given that Emily only went to the first preliminary hearing, and dropped supporting him after… it seems most likely that she never saw any of that behavior herself and was there to support a friend she thought was being falsely accused (or at least giving him the benefit of the doubt), and once there were actual facts showing the allegations were true, she stopped supporting him. Which is what you would expect from everyone not involved.

        • DrSoap@lemmy.world
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          12 days ago

          They were all in the same religion, even if not formally, and there are accounts of them intimidating witnesses to not talk. They knew. Do more research.

          • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
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            12 days ago

            Amazing how the low effort responses always say shit like “do more research” instead of actually contributing to the discussion in a meaningful way.

            You’re clearly referencing the Church of Scientology part. Was there something in my comment that intimated that Scientology wasn’t a factor at all? No. While it very well could be a facto, likely even, simply supporting a friend they thought could be falsely accused is also likely.

            Emily hasn’t talked about the Church at all, and was last seen at a Church gala way back in 2013. Then there are the song lyrics back from her time in Dead Sara that seem to reference criticism of the Church. And the fact she identifies as queer, something the Church is very outspoken against. But of course the Church must be the only explanation, simply because it’s tangentially involved. To the point that you feel the need to assume someone talking about this online and not mentioning Scientology clearly must have no idea what’s going on, and a low effort comment is necessary.

            • DrSoap@lemmy.world
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              11 days ago

              Scientology was heavily involved, provided victims for him and helped cover it up. Your comment is longer, but I don’t see much effort.

          • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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            12 days ago

            “there are accounts” isn’t convincing. Seems like pasting an article would’ve taken moments and may have been. You responded to someone who made a decent point, criticizing jumping to conclusions, as if they jumped to a wild conclusion themselves.

      • lobut@lemmy.ca
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        12 days ago

        I was actually surprised because I think he ran or founded the non-profit Thorn and I was a donor … shame …

        • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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          12 days ago

          Waiting for the Olsen twins and Hilary Duff to turn 18. Now for what it’s worth, Eminem said the same in a song.

          https://x.com/MrPopOfficial/status/1700561885613973605

          On “The Rosie O’Donnell Show” in 2002, Kutcher himself would admit, “She was 14 when we started the show. I was, like, 19, right? And they’re like, ‘Okay, you guys are going to be making out in this scene,’ and I’m thinking, like, ‘Wait, this is slightly illegal, right?’” Despite these reservations, Kutcher said that he had attempted to “French kiss” Kunis during the scene

          In an episode of “Hot Ones” from 2019, Kutcher was asked to share anything he could about the famous parties Diddy threw. Kutcher said, “I’ve got a lot I can’t tell,”

          Source:

          https://www.thelist.com/1699466/ashton-kutcher-controversial-moments/

  • SHY_TUCKER@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    Excuse my surprise here. I know nothing about this case. I never saw the tv show and don’t know this person. But, I am so surprised this rich famous guy gets 30 years when my entire 50 plus year life has been constantly peppered with stories of randos getting community service and probation for raping women, and even children. More than one of them have recieved supreme court appointments. What percent of convicted rapists get sentenced to 30 years or more in the USA? I asked AI and it claims less than 4%. Was he not in the right frat or something? Like, remember Brock the fratboy who raped an unconcious woman in a dumpster enclosure and got let off? I don’t understand what goes on, and I don’t trust it. That symbol of blind justice has a terrible conotation in this context.

    I’m perhaps being too edgy, forgive me. But, you must see that even if this guy deserves 30 years, which I am not disputing. How is there such a wild variance in American “Justice” ? Its just wild to me.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      12 days ago

      a few years ago, he gained more noteriety than he should he was intially charge, the moment he was found guilty ASTHON kutcher and milas kunis immediately went on camera to VOUCH for him.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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        12 days ago

        That’s not why he was convicted as a famous rich white guy, that was just some lifelong friends standing by him. They didn’t deny his guilt, they just asked for leniency for their friend, which was rejected.

        He was found guilty because the judge didn’t let it be about his celebrity, OR his membership in Scientology. He was treated like any other citizen accused of multiple rapes. That’s how it should be for every citizen.

        • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 days ago

          He must not have had any dirt on anyone powerful. A lot of people who were going to Epstein’s Island or his parties weren’t necessarily pedophiles. They just wanted to be part of his circle enough to not not care about the rape. They wanted to be trusted by his circle and his circle to trust him and the method of binding those people together was sharing in crimes and have blackmail on each other. I’m guessing that Masterson never got into one of those circles, so no one powerful ever made any phone calls to the investigators or judge on his behalf.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Excuse me but you should never mention brock turner without the asshole judge Aaron perskey who let him off with the “boys will be boys” rhetoric. Or Dan Turner his gross dad who wrote the letter about how “his son’s future is ruined”.

      These are the poster children of empowered toxic masculinity.

      Anyone ever need a perfect example of unchecked white male privilege just need to look at these three fuckwits.

    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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      11 days ago

      I’ve just checked and in Spain maximum jail time for rape with aggravating circumstances is 15 years. People usually get ~20 years for manslaughter. He was found guilty for 2 counts of rape and got 30 years to life. I’m as baffled as you are.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
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        11 days ago

        There were 4 victims, including his wife. All 4 were members of Scientology and kicked out.

        The sentence was about the rapes, but also the rape culture in Scientology.

    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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      11 days ago

      If I had to guess, it’s because he either didn’t have enough money to bribe anyone (he wasn’t rich enough, this seems likely since it says his net worth is only 8 million), or he got unlucky with a judge that just isn’t corrupt. It may be a combination of both.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Other than a bunch of his co-stars on that 70s show.

      The actress that played Kitty Foreman was so impressed that he made the other teenaged stars make a pact to stay away from weed that she’s willing to forgive a little rape. Which also checks out for the type of person he seems to be: very vocally “good” but a real piece of shit behind closed doors. It’s all PR.

      The actor that played Red Foreman thinks someone taking a leadership role amongst the group should forgive a bit of rape. Makes me wonder if it was more of a fucked up dynamic because that also fits the type that I’ve seen, but there was also a lot of money and a contract keeping them together, which gives that type power.

      Though Jackie and Micheal (can’t remember what the rest of them called him) also thought his rape wasn’t that bad.

      I can’t find any evidence that Topher Grace (Eric), Laura Prepon (Donna), or Wilmer Valderrama (Fez) ever supported him after the allegations came out. I wonder if they appreciated his “leadership” as much as the old ones did or started to see through him while they were still filming the show.

      • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        ery vocally “good” but a real piece of shit behind closed doors

        They are called narcissist and sociopaths. Who use ‘morals’ to hide their immorality.

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          Either way, they are hilarious when they try to virtue signal to you using something you don’t even see as a virtue. Religion is a pretty common one (though he’s scientologist, which hits a bit differently and is probably why he depended on the next one…), along with support following various controversial laws (like “weed is illegal thus bad” in this case).

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          All I know was that I wasn’t able to find any public statements she made in support of him regarding the rape charges or sentencing.

          But I did find information saying she quietly left scientology a while ago (and later talked about it) and that she dated Chris Masterson (who played Francis on Malcolm in the Middle and is on that IMDB list of Danny supporters), not Danny, though Danny did introduce her to Scientology.

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          Well that’s disappointing. No more from 70s show but Tara from walking dead and Francis from Malcolm in the Middle are on that list (and have the same last name, siblings/cousins?, plus another one that was on 40 year old virgin).

          Don’t really recognise anyone else from the list, though not really surprised he has the support of a producer from 2 and a half men.