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The extremelyinfuriating part: these people vote.
Voting causes autism, look it up sheeple.
using the internet causes cancer, look up 5G it’s an internet thing sheeple
I got one that’s actually true.
Part of the male ejaculate is produced in the prostate and that is also where a bunch of carcinogens end up. Ergo no fap might give you cancer eventually. Ejaculation prevents cancer!Sigh. *Unzips*
Caprinae exists! Look up sheeple!
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Damn that explains why I was diagnosed at 20. It wasn’t because women in autism is severely underdiagnosed, it was because I had only recently gotten it by diligently voting in every election since turning 18! 😫
a follow might be: Do the people know better vote? Can they?
This is the correct perspective. As it turns out, a huge amount of people that believe Bill Gates is injecting 5G chips into people absolutely don’t vote. If you recall, the first amendment nuts in the loser convoys and a bunch of the J6 defendants weren’t even registered to vote and yet they screeched election interference. For an election they didn’t even bother to vote in.
2020 was one of the highest blue voter turnouts in national history making record first time voters in their 30s and 40s.
So yes, it should be pointed out that everyday people turning out to vote against this brain rot is just as important whether or not magats and human vegetables are voting too.
This is a stupid arguments, TBH.
There’s no argument…
They’ve been working on a COVID vaccine since the SARS epidemic, but that fact won’t stop the stupid.
Also, cancer isn’t one disease but a whole class of diseases. And we actually do have vaccines that prevent certain forms of cancer, like the HPV vaccine.
I WONT LET MY KID GET THE HPV VACCINE. IT MEANS THEY CAN HAVE SEX WITH NO CONSEQUENCES
Ma’am, pregnancy is still a consequence of sex as you obviously should know after having 5 kids.
if she grew up with a certain kind of religious education, it’s possible she still might not have drawn that particular connection
There is also a lung cancer vaccine made in Cuba, called CimaVax (I think).
There’s some hurdles to getting it though, depending on where you are.
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Also, the amount of computational power that was made available for COVID research was recorded breaking.
If you were on Folding@home at that time, they couldn’t get enough WU out fast enough for a while. Gamers really showed up and helped.
Yeah, it helps when you have a mind-boggling amount of computers across the world crunching your data.
Also, why wouldn’t they use a cancer vaccine for a “mind control” or “tracking chip”.
I always found the tracking chip conspiracy stuff to be particularly funny. Unfortunately, I never personally met any whackos that believed it.
The best method for very accurately tracking them was the thing they likely used to post about the COVID vaccine tracking you.
Belief isn’t needed.
MIT researchers have now developed a novel way to record a patient’s vaccination history: storing the data in a pattern of dye, invisible to the naked eye, that is delivered under the skin at the same time as the vaccine. https://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218
And Bill Gates talking about doing it in a reddit AMA.
The worst part about this is that the MRNA tech used in the COVID vaccine was developed specifically to make cancer vaccines.
And mRNA vaccine technology has been advancing for decades. It’s disingenuous to suggest that “it only took ten months.”
There were also early coronavirus vaccines being developed with mRNA tech to fight SARS and MERS. I have a friend who got the MERS vaccine as part of a test group.
And it came together with new rapid prototyping technologies for vaccines, and far better computer modeling than anything anyone has ever had before. Like, there were a bunch of technologies that just happened to be coming into maturity at almost the same time, and between those technologies and the combined powers of most of the major vaccine labs on the face of the planet, and the near-infinite money to tie all of that in a nice package, a vaccine was developed in 10 months
It’s really a story of humanity actually pulling their shit together and deciding to throw all their chips in a pile, as it were.
I was already amazed by the vaccines’ development but this really put into perspective just how fortunate we were and how Herculean the effort was to do it. It truly is awing what can be accomplished when the tools and our collective will are combined for a singular purpose.
Why the fuck are these idiots so weirdly obsessed with Gates. He’s a fuckin’ retired OS monger, not a supermegapolyscientist
His foundation is heavily invested in vaccinating populations in the global south. On paper at least – I don’t trust billionaires or their foundations, most of it is tax evasion anyway.
Say what you want about bill gates, but that guy is the second highest donor to the world health organization, only behind the USA (yes, the country). Beats even all the other countries
billg knows how to spend it.
I’d rather tax the rich and let the people decide what to do with their money than trust all billionaires to do the right things.
This particular person is on a mission to do to malaria what science and governments did to smallpox, eliminate it from existence forever. You don’t spend 80 billion dollars to save on your taxes. He’s no perfect saint, but there are rich people who are more selfish.
he’s really rich and has paid lip service to liberal ideas, that’s enough
Gives them someone other than themselves to hate.
He was also very friendly with Epstein…
Honestly at this point what rich cunt isn’t
god i hate gates and wish he never did this whitewashing bullshit but these vaccine dumbasses have as many brain cells as their iq value
There are two reasons for no AIDS vaccine: 1) it’s very hard to make a vaccine for a virus that targets the immune system and 2) it’s very hard to make a vaccine for a virus that is primarily associated with a group that one political party has a contingent that wants that group dead
More on 2: even though it’s also transmitted via blood transfusions and other “innocent” ways, the main transmission risks are unprotected sex and shared needles when using drugs.
No way conservative, religious countries are putting up a grand effort to find a vaccine for promiscuous young people and drug users either, even if they aren’t gay.
Also I believe AIDS virus mutates very rapidly, which makes it harder in that sense to develope a vaccine for it.
Ignorance appears to be like rabies in at least one way, once it rots enough of your brain you become fearful of anything and everything around you.
I’ve come to think that stupidity is the default condition of humans. And I don’t mean in the sense of “you start off not possessing much knowledge.” I mean stupidity, not ignorance.
If you study some evolution and anthropology, you learn that the brain is an incredibly expensive organ. Most life forms opt for a lower level of intelligence that’s good enough to get some food in their face and their genitals where they need to go. The brain is a massive risk and it’s miraculous how it’s managed to pay off in our case.
Still, thinking is hard work. I think most people would rather do hard physical labor than actually think hard about something difficult. The brain itself functions like a shortcut machine, too. It doesn’t do hard calculations on where that tennis ball is going to bounce. It makes a “good enough” guess, and that’s it. People instinctively look at what other people are doing because it’s so much easier to let your neighbor figure it out and then copy them. And, yes, people love to subscribe to a worldview, political position, or belief set that someone else is selling and just let them do all the big thinking for them.
You could look at it as willful self deprivation, and it is, but I think it’s also just the basic gravity of pure resource management constantly pulling people down into lower levels of mental activity. Thinking takes a tremendous amount of energy.
What an interesting take, fits my world view perfectly.
I think it’s arrogance that is the default condition. Specially if you are educated, because now you feel confident your opinions are correct, and others are wrong and must be stupid.
This is mostly why people don’t get along very well. Everyone thinks they are right and they have this need to fight people who says something differently.
Massive downvotes with no comments is a sign of this behavior.
I’m not sure that last sentence tracks, if people need to fight people who disagree, wouldn’t they be leaving comments, vocally disagreeing/verbally attacking the other user or their position? Just downvoting and moving is still “getting along” so to speak.
Downvoting is the lazy version of that…just press a button if you don’t agree with something. It’s a bit like giving reviews to people based on what you think about what they write.
You call it “lazy,” I call it time management. No one has the time or intellectual bandwidth to respond to all the deeply stupid comments on the Internet, so downvotes give us a quick and easy to register our opinion and move on.
Explains all the memes being popular I guess… Minimum effort :)
And tribalism is really strong. For many it doesn’t matter if what they’re fighting against is actually logical, as long as they’re doing it together and they have a common enemy like some nonexistent deep state that was made up by the Russians to sow dissent in the United States
Both my parents didn’t want the vaccine because they were scared of side effects. Both of them have multiple chronic diseases . My dad lungs are basically dead from chaine smoking for 50+ years. They miraculously survived getting coronavirus twice…
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Yup. I had a few people say “It’s no big deal, I had it and it was just a bad cold! It’s totally been blown out of proportion by the media!”
I also went to a funeral for someone who got it at church.
No. Thankfully, my parents aren’t anti-vaxers just watched too much of Facebook ‘doctors’. Real doctors that were spewing garbage online to get views and ‘get famous’ as said by someone that was arrested by the police.
Did they get the vaccine then?
No.
But chain smoking for 50 years was perfectly acceptable.
He did have a very difficult childhood and he was so addicted he basically constantly smoked and i mean almost every second of his waking life . If you think cigarettes aren’t that addictive think again. He had like 4 to 5 packs (20 cigarettes each ) daily.
Thank god cigarettes don’t have side effects 🙏
I’m mad, but for the wrong reason. I’m mad we haven’t invested enough in research for cures to other things.
AIDS treatment has changed a lot though. It’s not the wasting death sentence it used to be.
Cancer is a trickier beast, because it’s so essential to what we are. Very closely tied to aging. But cancer treatment has changed a lot too. There are actually some cancers which are highly treatable and in some cases eliminated with a single shot. Look up Rituxan.
Yeah there are living people who contracted aids in the 80s. Like it’s kinda night and day culturally and you can get whiplash reading accounts of the time. Huge name powerful people were completely helpless and then suddenly it was an unpleasant treatment but you’d live. And now we have prep and pep. Literally there’s plan b for hiv available in every emergency room in the developed world
With all those miracles, it galls me that some people are still down on medicine because there isn’t a simple one-shot “cure.” It’s like the small pox vaccine made people think that until someone is a one-shot deal, science has failed.
I’m also mad that we, apparently, haven’t invested enough in education.
One of the worst parts is that there are many valid reasons to criticize Bill Gates with regards to the COVID vaccine (mainly as it pertains to his intellectual property crusade leading to a few companies getting to dictate the rollout and screwing over the Global South in the process), but it’s all drowned out by these idiots screaming about microchips.
Honestly it seems a lot of these “conspiracy theories” are just bullshit stories spoon fed to stupid people to keep them chasing their own tails and distract from the real issues.
Since the dawn of man
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Yes. The Oxford vaccine should have been open source. Gates money changed that.
That’s because all of that is too complicated for these simpletons to understand. They think “intellectual property” is a smart guy’s personal belongings.
Poor Dolly Parton.
She help fund a vaccine and no one is banging on about her vaccine causing you to get a large blonde hairdo (we all know it’s a wig), and large breasts.
There is no democracy in the targeting of people who’ve helped fund development. I think they’ve missed a trick.
Think I’ve just had an idea about an article taking the piss out of anti -vaxers.
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“I did my own research” in their language means " I googled for some sketchy websites until I found what I want to hear and believe."
I mean, they’re not wrong (except for that last part), but it’s for all of the wrong reasons.
Edit: to clarify upon re reading my comment, these people are fucking idiots.
Oh they are wrong. There is a vaccine against HPV for example.
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This is what fascists do.
They found a 100% effective way to place microchips on our bodies within just 10 months? Damn, I didn’t know science had advanced that much.
we have been microchipping our pets for decades
They’re referring to the people that think Gates funded vaccine research as a spy program, like they don’t own Android phones.
MIT researchers have now developed a novel way to record a patient’s vaccination history: storing the data in a pattern of dye, invisible to the naked eye, that is delivered under the skin at the same time as the vaccine.
The research was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Motive is subjective but the funding isn’t.
Uh huh.
And a skin dye pattern has what, exactly, do with microchips and GPS blood trackers?
Cuz if you think those are the same thing you’re going to go wild when you hear about other kinds of tattoos.
It’s the gates funded spy program you referred to. You don’t need compute resources or location tags. Just a way to store data on a person.
Get vaccinated, get tattooed
Passed your driving test, get tattooed
Pay your tax, get tattooed
Arrest at a protest, get tattooed
Etc.
As a general rule, I don’t panic over things that can be done in an excel spreadsheet too.
Do you often tattoo excel spreadsheets on your body?
No vaccine against stupidity either. Coincidence?
It’s called school and when you vilify school this is what happens.
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I don’t want to comment on that. Every time i did i was called all kind of names so huh… Yeah , USA is the best country in the world and they never did anything wrong, ever. Go USA.
I will say that I’m pretty sure I remember learning about things like the founding fathers owning slaves, slavery being the biggest single factor behind the civil war, Jim Crow, Japanese internment, and Watergate, among other things, in AP US history in high school. My class also definitely learned about the Trail Of Tears.
That being said, 1. elementary school was still much more about saying the pledge before class and it wasn’t until high school until we started to get into the good stuff, and 2. this was in the infamous anti-American commie hellscape that is the state of California, so take that as you will.
Sure there is. It’s called birth control.
Vaccines are typically meant to protect against viruses or bacteria. Cancer is neither of those. hiv is a virus but the political will to produce effective treatments was not always there. I think a lot of young people underestimate the homophobia that was pervasive not all that long ago and how it was tied to the aids epidemic.
There are some promising efforts for vaccines against cancer. It’s teaching your immune system to kill cells that were supposed to die on their own. It’s a relatively recent development, though.
Plus, as should always be stated with cancer treatments, there is no singular “cancer”. It’s a class of related problems that need to be handled individually. Vaccine against prostate cancer shouldn’t be expected to work against breast cancer. Anything that claims to cure cancer in a blanket way should be treated with great suspicion.
Oh boy, that could also go horribly wrong too, what if a cell is a little bit retarded in it’s growth for some reason but would develop into a useful cell but, NOPE body killed it.
It could, but it’s also improving on something your immune system already does. Out of all the trillions of cells undergoing division in your body all the time, a few of them go cancerous each and every day. Your immune system almost always takes them out. It’s the one time out of a bajilion that things go wrong.
How can they even compare them? Nobody even suggested that COVID is similar to the other two. Cancer isn’t even a virus and left to their own devices COVID is probably the less dangerous one.
Also cancer isn’t just a single disease, there are multiple conditions that can lead to cancer and they all have different chances of survival.
Actually, you’re wrong on that “Nobody even suggested that COVID is similar” remark. Nobody credible, or Nobody who knows what they’re talking about and not lying, then sure, you’re probably right. However antivaxers and disingenuous scientists absolutely have been doing that since covid was discovered.
Knowledge Fight is a podcast that critically analyzes Alex Jones and a few other grifters, and during 2020 and beyond they had so many lies and fake studies. One of Jones’s big talking points was that COVID was a manufactured virus with HIV inserts, which originally came from a discredited, retracted, and non-peer reviewed study out of India that suggested such a thing. Another link: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/Scientists-slam-Indian-study-that-fueled-coronavirus-rumors
Despite the retraction, bad actors don’t care. They got a “study” and headline to confirm their beliefs, so they just act like retraction never happened and just lie lie lie. Echo chambers allows this to run unchecked, and then you have people believing they’re equal.
This actually gets me thinking… Is anyone actually working on an aids vaccine? Maybe mRNA could do something there, theoretically it should be able to grant pretty much any type of immunity you can have naturally
Yes, they are working diligently to ID an effective mRNA vaccine, but the same barriers exist as before. First, HIV mutates rapidly, meaning it easily escapes immunity and evades vaccines. Second, as a retrovirus, it integrates its DNA into a person’s own cellular DNA, so even if your immune system destroys the virus, the DNA remains undetectable to the immune system and able to manufacture new virus at will.
(Responding to the picture here) As for cancer, it’s not a virus or bacteria, which is what vaccines have typically worked against. Cancer is your immune system failing to kill a cell from your own body that has mutated to grow out of control. They’re rapidly developing mRNA techniques for cancer, too.
COVID was a fucking walk in the park immunologically compared to cancer and HIV
Yeah, retroviruses are a hard nut to crack. Either you try to target the virus and leave the cells alone, which is the hard route, or you target the specific DNA sequence of the virus, which forces the body to start murdering itself.
I wish we could add friends on lemmy cause I like the cut of your jib
There have been recent breakthroughs in that area along this exact line of thought, actually.
PreP is a really effective tool for now while research continues. Your chances of getting HIV while taking the medication correctly reduces your chances to a very very small percentage. Of course, nothing is perfect, but it’s been great for the gay amab community.
They are, but every time they get close to a cure god sends a hurricane to destroy the lab and kill all the atheists inside it
Stop building the labs on the Gulf of Mexico?
