Measure in blue state requires female athletes prove their sex, which critics warn could lead to ‘invasive’ genital exams

Can someone explain to me how my state got everything else right for the most part but went stupid for this one?

Literally, let’s inspect little girls privates, but not boys, because 10 trans students exist and MIGHT want to play sports with their friends? Jesus.

It was also kind of disgusting that literally all our state initiatives were funded by a 1%-er, Brian Heywood and his Let’s Go Washingtion PAC.

    • MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl
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      3 days ago

      That is also a review, my friend.

      It’s also just an abstract. Do you have the full paper?

      I will acknowledge that transgender women after 3 years or so may have similar physical fitness to cisgender women. That 3 years is important though. I think if transgender women were to be allowed to compete in female leagues, there would need to be verification of HRT timelines. In a high school environment I could see this being difficult for a number of reasons. That’s not to say I’m against it, but I think further regulations would need to be put in place in order to guarantee fairness.

      Edit:

      Reviewing it further…

      https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-study-looking-at-physical-fitness-of-transgender-and-cisgender-women/

      “The authors have been thorough in gathering relevant literature, but the paper suffers from several problems.

      “Only longitudinal studies are truly informative, because otherwise we can’t know the contribution of hormonal treatment to fitness nor how much difference in fitness between transgender women and cisgender women existed before treatment began – it might be that transgender women in research studies have self-selected as a group who were not as strong or as aerobically fit as cisgender men before they began treatment. The longitudinal data (pages 8-9 in the paper) don’t show convincing evidence of changes in physical fitness that remove the advantage known to exist between men and women in the absence of hormonal treatment. Indeed, other authors (including me) reviewed essentially the same literature and concluded that performance decreases due to hormonal treatment in transgender women were notably smaller than typical differences between men and women, meaning retention of performance advantage

      • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org
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        3 days ago

        And sports have standards. In most cases, transwomen have to have hormone levels similar to ciswomen. I agree with having standards to ensure that transwomen have to have been on HRT long enough to achieve similar levels as ciswomen. But banning transwomen from women’s sports is wrong.

        • MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl
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          3 days ago

          Reading that article, it seems to pose more questions than answers. It repeatedly admits that more data is needed.

          “Table 1” alone seems to give more reasons than enough to delay integration of trans and cis athletes due to a pretty decent number of “future considerations”.

          So as in my previous edits, I still think there are just too many unknowns to ensure fair competition. I think the voters got it right on this one – for now – until those unknowns have been solved.

          • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org
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            3 days ago

            There aren’t too many unknowns. This shit is well researched due to the entire fucking controversy and it has been determined that despite more lean mass, most transwomen are at comparable fitness to ciswomen. You are acting like transwomen shouldn’t win at all to be accepted into women’s sports.

            • MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl
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              3 days ago

              I dont think you actually read the paper you sent me if this is the conclusion you are reaching.

              You are acting like transwomen shouldn’t win at all to be accepted into women’s sports.

              And I don’t know where you are getting this shit right here. I’m trying to have a real conversation with you and you keep acting like a prick. To be fair though, you aren’t the only one acting like this. People seem to have a foregone conclusion on this subject and if others don’t agree with that, insults follow. I don’t think this does your arguments any favors.