LG’s smart TV privacy woes continue as Portugal’s Citizen Voice asks the court to investigate. Are smart TVs too keen to gather data?

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    24 hours ago

    Corporation: Do evil shit to achieve optimum profit, usually in 100s of millions of extra profit. Laws: Yeah this’ll cost you 10 million.

    I’m sure there’s a name for this but I’m calling it Litigation Offset Loss. So long as the punitive cost is outweighed by the profit gained there is no incentive to act ethically. The only thing worse is corporate self regulation.

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      16 hours ago

      It’s called “The government wets it’s beak.”

      The MAGA government doesn’t mind if you fleece the rubes, that’s what they’re there for, but if you are particularly successful, you have to make sure the government gets its taste.

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      1 day ago

      It’s alleged because they haven’t been convicted of a crime. That they did it is not in question, what’s in question is what crime (if any) will they be convicted of. Could be this or something else or nothing.

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    I worry about these screens being in doctors offices and hospitals without their knowledge is transcribing all this info they should not be.

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        That would be lovely to see implemented.
        Samsung execs unable to go withing 100m radius of any random chap who might have bought a Samsung TV in the past 10 years.

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          17 hours ago

          Point of clarification – this thread is about an LG lawsuit.

          Samsung is allegedly doing similar heinous shit, so I get why the company and its execs would come to mind.

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      Same. I want my $2 check.

      Thankfully I never connected my C1 to wifi, but knowing that it’ll try to silently connect to an open network, IDK how effective that is. I’m seriously considering opening the thing and physically disabling the wifi chip.

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    They should be taken off the shelves entirely until they’ve proven they fixed it. This should hurt them good enough to let others break out a sweat and fix theirs too. Because no way is Samsung and all the others not doing the same.

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      You got me wondering how that works. The retailers have already paid, so that wouldn’t hurt them immediately. Of course further orders would be shut off instantly.

      Would the government order LG to buy back units already sold or is the retailer shit out of luck?

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        23 hours ago

        Retailers should immediately get their money back in an instance like this. I have no love for the retailers, but it would at least hurt the manufacturer.

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        You can bet the retailers would sue them. And not occupying shelves cost them a lot of money. What’s in stock right now isn’t what’s sold in a year. Yes, it would suck for the retailers, but it would SUUUUCK for LG.

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      2 days ago

      Of course it is this was known years ago but hard to search now as there are a ton of stuff about it now.

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        2 days ago

        I’m with you on the extent, not on the kind of punishment. They should feel it though, that’s for sure. And it should be costly enough for others to panic.

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          you don’t creep on a thousand people in their bedroom and walk away. each of us should get to make a cut.

          how many million of these were sold?no. fuck them. I saw a cop kill a homeless man for not responding to an order once. people who knew him said he was mostly deaf, no idea if it was true. the cop wasn’t punished.

          that kind if brutality needs to be turned on those who made it to protect them. they had millions of victims. they profited from harming us. i cant know if any of my stalkers bought data mined from my roommate’s tv, but if i had been a slightly less imposing person this might have ended with me being seriously harmed. how many others were in my position? what is the actual human cost of this infraction?

          they should not get to live. those who profited should not get to live full lives unmarked by their sins. investors should be more careful. a message needs yo be sent, and nothing fungible will do. they need to lose something we cannot fully replace.

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            I agree, but I don’t agree with capital punishment. And I don’t think the punishment matches the crime. They should bleed all the money and then some, and they should face prison time.

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              See the problem is these types have no remorse, they cannot be remediated. Theyll serve their sentences, bribe whomeever is needed tk get out early, and go write back to their crime sprees. These elite criminals need to be made afraid again.

            • thinkingofyouihaveananxietydisorder@quokk.au
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              2 days ago

              see, I don’t agree with prisons.

              I think if you’re going to have a society run on vice and kept in line with fear of punishment, and anything else seems to be derided as hippie shit because I’m living in orc world, the punishments should be scary.

              prison is horrible, it makes you worse to suffer, it fucks up the people who run it too, and its very easy to make not-scary. you’re still throwing a persons life away just like if you’re killing them, but you’re putting in this huge resource investment to feel morally superior and making both of you worse people in the process. its vile.

              plus, I’d rather just have them out of the world and not released upon the next fascist regime. every time that happens it diminishes the effectiveness of the terror of prison. how many times has that happened in high profile cases just related to the current american regime?