• dactylotheca
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    12310 months ago

    Any predictions on how long it’ll take for conservatives to start outlawing sterilizations for women?

    • @[email protected]
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      8210 months ago

      My friend with severe PCOS and who would never be able to be pregnant had the hardest time already trying to get a hysterectomy at 28. Even asked about her future husband being ok with this decision.

      So we aren’t that far off already.

    • rand_alpha19
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      3810 months ago

      It’s exceptionally difficult already for a woman to get sterilized. The decider may be whether sterilization has the same stigma/religious fervor around it that abortion has in that people will willingly waste their weekends off protesting against it.

      I’m optimistic, but America likes to disappoint me.

    • @[email protected]
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      10 months ago

      That’s why I hauled ass to the doctor and got a bisalp scheduled asap. I ended up getting them to agree to a hysterectomy this year, which is what I really wanted, but I wasn’t willing to take a chance on that not happening. I’m no longer in the young category, but I was only 38 and potentially still fertile (and way more likely to have complications from being “geriatric”).

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      10 months ago

      Honestly it’s so difficult to get done as it is that they don’t even need to outlaw. It’s virtually unobtainable for most women unless they already have “enough” kids, whatever that means to a specific doctor, or they travel to find a willing doctor.

      It took me 8 years to get it done because I’ve never reproduced (childfree by choice). And I’m one of the easier stories. I got it done at 27, in 2015, and while some doctors are more willing now, most aren’t. Especially in conservative areas.

      All they have to do is keep making doctors scared to offer proper reproductive care, make it risky and they stop going into that field. You don’t need to make it illegal, just impossible. Rich white people will still be able to choose, so they don’t care.

      I had to deal with a whole bunch of people asking me hypothetical questions. What if you regret it? (what if I regret having them?), what about your future partner? (If they are right for me they also don’t want kids, and I don’t plan to get married anyway). What if you change your mind? (I will adopt if that happens. I don’t believe sharing my junk genetics is important, and the chances of issues are high anyway since I’m also broken, and there are plenty of not-infant kids who need homes if I get maternal, but kids under 5 aren’t my jam and probably never will be, and I’m probably too negligent to raise them right anyway). Ultimately they couldn’t argue with my logic but it took years of finding the right doctors getting the right consultations, etc.

      • @[email protected]
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        1110 months ago

        We all know you’re full of shit, but just in case you’re a useful idiot to conservatism instead of cynical grifter…

        If you want fewer abortions, the answer has been obvious for decades — sex ed and birth control made available to everyone that wants it, which results in fewer unwanted pregnancies, which results in fewer abortions.

        Your moron political group and its insistence on overturning Roe resulted in an increase in abortions. 2023 had the highest number and rate in literally decades. So if you’re dumb enough to think that’s “murdering babies,” then congrats. The people you vote for increased the body count.

  • @[email protected]
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    3810 months ago

    The number of young men getting vasectomies also shot up, but men still get sterilized much less often than women.

    I got mine in September. I’d kicked the can down the road for years but finally pulled the trigger largely because of Roe being overturned.

    • @[email protected]
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      810 months ago

      The only reason I haven’t is because I’m ace, so nothing’s happening until I intentionally attempt for kids

      • @[email protected]
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        310 months ago

        I’ll admit that I’d never considered your situation before and feel that I have learned quite a lot very suddenly. Thank you.

        • @[email protected]
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          310 months ago

          I only recently started to realize that myself actually. Even growing up with LGBT+ folks exploding in visibility, it was always in the direction of allosexual folks. I grew up being conditioned to believe whatever I felt about sex should be ignored and that I should seek it out.

          What I’ve realized is that I’m not sex-adverse like I assumed ace folks would be, I just don’t care or think about it. I also don’t get the hype around sex. That’s also a valid asexual outlook. Some day I do want to be a dad though, so I need the very same family planning resources that are currently being chipped away.

            • @[email protected]
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              210 months ago

              More like, I will have sex with romantic partners if they want it but I won’t ever go asking them for sex. I’m completely disinterested in sex with strangers. I tried to dance around it because some folks find the discussion gross, but an additional aspect to being ace for me is that it doesn’t feel much different from masturbating. I still have libido, so both of those are just ways of handling a natural part of being human

    • @[email protected]
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      110 months ago

      I was broke as hell and the vasectomy was going to cost $700.

      I finally saved $700, and when I went in they said “shit dawg, you’re broke as hell. Here is this program to make it free”

      So even if you can’t afford it, try reaching out to your local planned parenthood. They know how to navigate the benefit system better then you.

  • MeatPilot
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    3210 months ago

    Hard truth for folks to understand is people actually fuck because it’s fun and a healthy part of a relationship.

    This is what happens when you have no alternatives left to manage accidents and don’t want to live like a nun or monk.

    • @[email protected]
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      110 months ago

      Oh they understand people fuck, and the people who want to ban abortion and contraception want people to have kids they didn’t want for various reasons.

  • Jo Miran
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    2110 months ago

    Dear young men. Get a vasectomy. You don’t want to raise children in a doomed future, plus it might do wonders to your dating profile.

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      210 months ago

      As it turns out most men and women aren’t weird doomer weirdos who spend a considerable amount of their lives being miserable online. Most people want families, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

  • @[email protected]
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    2110 months ago

    Blows my mind that vasectomies are the less common procedure. Got mine done cheaply many years ago. Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

    Partner got tubes done recently (so that insurance couldn’t deny her for medically necessary hysterectomy later, what a dumb system we have) and she was miserably bedridden for quite a while, with the scars to prove it. Would have been expensive if she wasn’t maxed for out-of-pocket already.

    Anyone have a sane explanation?

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      10 months ago

      Toxic masculinity, all my friends that don’t want to be convinced have the worst excuses possible but most times it’s about not wanting to feel like a lesser man.

      • @[email protected]
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        310 months ago

        That’s so bizare, since I swapped out to unleaded we fuck constantly and not worry about contraception. nothing makes you feel like more of a man than fucking raw dog every chance you get.

  • Jeena
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    1710 months ago

    The lesbian woman got sterelized in case she gets raped so it doesn’t result in pregnancy. That’s … wow.

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      110 months ago

      If you read to the end, the article mentions that the first time Ferst tried to get sterilized (and her old doctor was being difficult) she still had a male partner. I think she’s bisexual.

  • @[email protected]
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    510 months ago

    I’d get snipped if I thought for a moment that I’d be seen as sexually desirable ever again.

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    110 months ago

    Part of the reason why I am getting my daughters citizenship abroad. One day, I hope that day never ever comes, they might need it.