• Skkorm@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Insect swarm creates a magical effect, it doesn’t summon literal bugs. And before you call me a buzz kill, it’s kind of lame to try and essentially skip the encounter I spent time building.

  • Pronell@lemmy.world
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    It seems to me that the insects from Insect Plague are a magical effect and not creatures that can be defeated or altered.

    Furthermore, even if they were actual locusts as per the spell, they would be unwilling to turn into elephants and plummet to their deaths.

    So. There is an insect swarm 200’ above the BBEG’s head and the druid is trying to cast an 8th level spell with no legitimate targets.

    Paladin, you’re up.

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    “Due to the close proximity of the insects to each other the whole swarm explodes into a mist of blood and parts of elefant carcasses raining down all over the battlefield. Time for everyone to roll…”

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      Or they are forced apart and cover such a large area they fall on everyone

      Elephants fall everyone dies

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      You can’t roll a reflex save against elephant matter coming at you at the speed of light.

      Why the speed of light? Because the amount of pressure from compressing the elephants into that small area is the energy of a small nuke.

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    Buzzkill DM: Locusts, even under the loose control of a druid, are not intelligent enough to be “willing” to be transformed, so they can’t be targeted by animal shapes, rules as written.

    Better DM: That’s cool as hell. Do it.

    Best DM: I’ll allow it, but you better start watching the skies from here on out. If you can do it, then the enemy can too.

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      Lol just have the elephants roll initiative. They will attack everyone. Mass chaos.

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        Thinking quickly, the BBEG casts Berserker and Shield Bubble as AoE spells in the sky above him.

        While he does suffer considerable damage once they all hit the ground, the enraged elephants do not. Now the battlefield has hundreds of larger-than-life bucky balls rolling in every direction.

        Each player must flip a coin before every turn to determine if they successfully dodged the latest pachydermian steamroller barreling towards them with reckless abandon.

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      2 years ago

      Hippos work, trade some size for extreme violence from the ones that survive the drop.

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    They’re probably all much closer together than an elephant length right? So them all turning into elephants would cause the size of the swarm to instantly and violently expand, possibly ejecting some of the outer ones at great speed and endangering everyone within a considerable distance.

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      So you’re saying it’s a pressurized pachyderm propulsor? An elephant ejecting explosion? A hephalump hurling horde? I like it, and I definitely like the potential for kinetic chaos.