• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Don’t stop there. GWB was enabled by Clinton, who was enabled by Bush Sr., and so on.

    Ever since Nixon was pardoned

    • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      7 days ago

      Let’s not start history with Nixon, you can trace the leadership in this country down a long line of bastards right back to Columbus.

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        7 days ago

        I choose Nixon because he was PARDONED for obvious crimes by Ford.

        But yes, we can go all the way back to Xerxes and so on, history precedes Columbus, too.

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          7 days ago

          Yes, I understood the logic of your starting point. I’m saying it’s a good idea to extend it further, as even a light skimming of American history outside of a propaganda K-12 textbook will have a laundry list of crimes committed by presidents and other European American leaders going back centuries, virtually none of them facing any consequences, built upon a foundation of dividing society into social haves and social have nots.

          Public outrage rising to Nixon actually feeling in legal danger due to public backlash is an interesting exception to the history of presidents getting away with shit, not the beginning of presidents getting away with shit.

  • mHtt@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    one hand washes the other. 2 sides of the same fascist coin.

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      7 days ago

      Nixon was it. In the modern political era, everything horrible flows from the original sin of Nixon and gang not facing justice. Instead they learned the worse lessons from what happened, which led to Reagan, W, and now Trump. Or if you want to step back from the modern era and take a longer view, Trump is a direct consequence of the failure of Reconstruction to root out the power of the Confederacy.

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        7 days ago

        We agree, that pardon was a clear line that we had never crossed before. Reagan had nothing to fear, and acted accordingly. As has every President since Nixon with the exception of maybe Carter. Maybe.

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        7 days ago

        I wonder what an alternate timeline would look like where Nixon was held responsible and went to jail.

  • ptsdstillinmymind@lemmy.today
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    7 days ago

    So very true. If Obama would have dropped the hammer on Bush for his War Crimes. Trump would have been too scared to run for anything.