• Hossenfeffer
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    1093 months ago

    She’s an idiot. When I have a fever I tie an onion to my belt, which is still the style.

  • @[email protected]
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    953 months ago

    The annoyingly stupid part is that for most fevers that don’t approach the “You need to go to the ER right now” point it’s actually best to simply let it run it’s course and not try to “break” it with drugs since a fever is your body’s own defense mechanism.

    But these antivaxxers will do this stupid shit, then go “see it works” and then try to apply it to everything else

    • Chris
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      563 months ago

      102.6 in an infant was er territory I thought

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          Gotta love that metric-conversion decimal dust.

          100.4 F is 38 C which is the actual measurement.

          • @[email protected]
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            23 months ago

            In defense of Fahrenheit, the resolution for human relevant temperatures is higher. Theoretically ideal for medical settings.

            But not if you use whole number Celsius and just convert to Fahrenheit.

            • @[email protected]
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              13 months ago

              You are correct… kind of. It’s a weak defense because you can always use a decimal to get more precision, and thermometers are only so accurate in their measurements anyway.

              You can do about as well with increments of 0.5 degrees Celsius as you can with whole degrees Fahrenheit, and most medical thermometers are only accurate within about 0.1° – 0.3° C anyway.

        • I Cast Fist
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          223 months ago

          In Celsius, 40º+ deserves a hospital visit (35-36º is the usual body temp). If you somehow manage to get it to 100º, please take pictures, I’m pretty sure the body would glow

          • @[email protected]
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            103 months ago

            I’m pretty sure the body would glow

            Nah, boiling water doesn’t glow. But it would probably be pretty foamy, from all of the proteins in the boiling blood.

          • Flying Squid
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            Then I sure as hell hope you’ve never been responsible for caring for an infant.

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              If baby temperature is 100c, its more reducing it to a simmer and covering with a lid temperature rather than a doctor temperature

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              23 months ago

              At 100c it has been dead for a very long time. 63C is medium rare for pork which means most humans should be well cooked at that temp.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah, pretty much anything in the triple digits is “call the pediatrician” levels when dealing with babies. Babies’ immune response is more focused on accepting immunizations from breast milk, and it will basically try to integrate things that have been filtered through mom first. The default response isn’t straight to “kill it” but rather “study it so we can protect against it later.” So babies’ immune systems really aren’t prepared for a full blown infection, because it won’t jump to actually fighting the infection until it is already pretty bad. If their temp is in the triple digits, it’s usually a sign that they caught something that didn’t already get filtered through mom’s immune system.

  • Majorllama
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    503 months ago

    I feel bad for the kids. They don’t deserve to die at the hands of incompetent parents.

    One of the downsides of disrupting natural selection is that now we are keeping some people alive that probably should be taken by natural causes before they were able to replicate.

      • @[email protected]
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        73 months ago

        Might not be. Even still, how much intelligence do you think they’ll gain by the time they are?

        • @[email protected]
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          33 months ago

          No one is arguing any different. Just pointing out the assertion that they are eligible to vote is in determinate.

        • @[email protected]
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          33 months ago

          you would be surprised how much folk ‘wisdom’ gets passed down through generations and continues to thrive. the thinking there being that natural is good because it can’t harm you (ignore mushrooms and beladonna, though). why take a pill produced in a lab somewhere, when you can just shove some onions in a sock?

          I suspect that this is just communication breakdown, from times when people used herbs for medicinal purposes (liquorice root, for example, acts as an antiinflammatory by inhibiting breakdown of cortisol, and willow bark contains salicylic acid, a rough version of aspirin - the latter being acetylsalicylic acid, a derivative of it). but I think even the old witch in the woods would disapprove of onions in socks.

    • @[email protected]
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      23 months ago

      Eligible doesn’t mean registered. A lot of these people are not big fans of things like government registries

      • @[email protected]
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        63 months ago

        A lot of these people do whatever their husbands tell them. Zero sense of self. They were raised to be obedient to their man and nothing more.

  • AmidFuror
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    323 months ago

    Unblinded study with n=1 test condition and no placebo / control.

    All she needs to do is say that her conclusions haven’t been evaluated by the FDA, and she’s proved it enough to sell onion socks online.

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      53 months ago

      And honestly, if she was giving baby Tylenol and antibiotics and whatall, I wouldn’t care if she put onions in their socks. It doesn’t hurt anything in the long run. But they don’t.

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      33 months ago

      n=1

      The thing with the onions is a well-established folk remedy. I even had it done to me when I was a little kid. I’m pretty sure that it doesn’t help (and appears to work because fevers generally go away on their own) but the OP isn’t simply making it up. Many people must have thought that it worked well enough that it was worth passing down over generations.

      • AmidFuror
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        73 months ago

        Ok. I didn’t realize this bullshit was grandfathered in.

  • @[email protected]
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    213 months ago

    You really want to add some rosemary and sage to the sock as well so it’s a proper bouquet garni. Then braise in a slow oven until fork tender.

  • @[email protected]
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    193 months ago

    I think its kind of weird everyone just assumes this was posted by a woman, unless I’m missing something. Men are parents too, and they can also be dumb like this.

    • @[email protected]
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      263 months ago

      Wtf this comment just made me realise I always assume these “natural remedy” posts are done by a female oop

      This can’t be the way I find out I’m sexist

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        It’s not sexism. Your brain naturally attributes probability from things it has seen in the past. The natural remedy of OPs sort is dominated by female sex so your brain just makes natural connection because it wants to be efficient in it’s world building process.

        Sexism is when you don’t self reflect on initial thoughts that you do not control and pursue these notions further in thoughts you control or simply refuse this dichotomy all together if you’re a wilful idiot powere by trauma.

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          13 months ago

          That is sexism though because there us no rational reason to believe this individual is a woman just because most of the time it has been a woman doing this in the past.

          What you have done is explain why casual sexism exists and why it continues to exist. I don’t think it is bad to have these thoughts as long as you recognize them for their irrational nature and respond accordingly.

          • @[email protected]
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            43 months ago

            This is how a lot of systemic racism and sexism persists, yes. But to be sexist, I think it’s the lack of self awareness to check yourself and the things you are doing or a willful disregard for it.

            While racism and sexism is taught, I do think it underscores a key aspect of how the human mind works. We all have prejudices because the brain would be overloaded if it couldn’t take historical patterns and apply them to new information and situations. “Being taught” doesn’t necessarily means a person showed them or told them to be sexist or racist, but just being exposed to stereotypes will make the brain take that shortcut in the future.

            That also means that we all have to be vigilant to identify them when they occur and challenge them. It also means we as a society need to put up safeguards to protect us from the shortcomings of our species. It’s why DEI is necessary. It’s why hate crime laws need to be on the books and enforced. We need to hold each other as a society to a higher standard than we as an individual could ever be.

          • Hemingways_Shotgun
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            I think you’re missing the difference between sexism (or any ism for that matter) with human bias.

            There’s a point in every enlightened person’s life when they wake up and realize “Everyone, INCLUDING ME, have ingrained biases developed from years of past experiences.” It’s not good, and we try to recognize it when it happens so that we can improve as humans. But at no point does that become “sexism”; it just human nature and one that we have to be on the lookout for in ourselves.

            What becomes sexism (or any ism for that matter ^save Ferris^ ) is when that bias becomes purposeful and targeted. It’s not a bias anymore, it’s been taken and turned into a weapon.

            In other words, please lighten up. Running around calling everyone evil sexist nazis because they have a harmless bias is the reason that we end up with reactionary groups like Incels and MAGA.

            • @[email protected]
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              No, Im not. When you permit your bias to influence your thinking you end up with the relevant -ism. That’s what happened here. The catch is everyone has these problems so it isn’t unique to yourself or worth beating yourself up over. What you should do is note it so the next time you don’t repeat the mistake.

            • @[email protected]
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              03 months ago

              Harmless bias LOL. No, sexism does not have to be at all intentional, it’s baked into society and culture, it’s still harmful even if you don’t declare you’re a sexist or even know it for that matter.

    • @[email protected]
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      93 months ago

      Mom groups are definitely a thing, and even where things don’t have to be for moms specifically the mentality still exists. My daughter was a “nano-premie” and was on oxygen for a while. I’m on a group for parents that have to deal with that, and every week or two there will be a post starting with “any moms who _______”

      I like to answer those posts and start by asking if dads can also answer (but also give a real answer too!)

      It is kind of hard when you try to be an involved dad but then get ignored in different ways

      • @[email protected]
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        13 months ago

        That does sound hard. You deserve recognition and respect and appreciation, I’m sorry you have to deal with that.

        • @[email protected]
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          Appreciate it. I’m generally able to roll my eyes, make that comment, still help, and move on.

          And to be fair, I did make a post in that group about that subject (basically, that dads exist and feel a bit ignored when questions are needlessly directed at “moms”, but understanding that Mom groups have their place in the world too) and the response was overwhelmingly (I believe entirely) positive. And there have since been “and dads” mentioned in posts was well! But there are a lot of people who come in and don’t stay forever.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      My old manager specifically mentioned the onion strapped to the foot thing in regards to his daughter having a bad fever.