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President Donald Trump is calling for federal prosecutors to push for the death penalty in capital cases involving undocumented people. The move was one of dozens of executive orders the president signed on day one of his second term.
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Why should undocumented people die for a crime while documented people shouldn’t? It’s the same crime. What possible argument is there for this except “It’s cheaper just to kill them, and we don’t give a fuck”? Effectively it’s execution for not having your papers in order.
Also, won’t this be used as the start of an excuse to kill whichever undocumented person they round up? And then to kill them in bulk, and then to kill the other people they decide to round up? There’s no reason whatsoever to trust this administration. They don’t believe in justice or laws.
The USA needs to find a way to get rid of these Nazis fast, or it’ll be too late to mount any effective resistance.
It’s not cheaper to execute people, either. Even if convicted, they still get their appeals, which costs court and lawyer time and money, plus the imprisonment. Even if they exhaust their appeals, they sit on death row until the state actually manages to execute them, which is getting more difficult due to lack of executioners and method of execution materials (e.g. the lethal injection items).
It’s not cheaper to execute people with our current legal framework. After we get 30,000 people in Guantanamo bay and illegal immigration has become a crime punishable by death, things could change.
They only started killing them in the 40s because they ran out of room. It’s the logical, horrific conclusion to permanent detention of millions of people.
I assume you mean they’ll be simply shot in the street?
Ha, due process? Unlikely
it’s actually quite a bit more expensive to execute someone than to house them for life.
Much to the surprise of many who, logically, would assume that shortening someone’s life should be cheaper than paying for it until natural expiration, it turns out that it is actually cheaper to imprison someone for life than to execute them. In fact, it is almost 10 times cheaper! One might ask, “how can that be?”
source: https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/which-is-cheaper-execution-or-life-in-prison-without-parole-31614
Of course, all of those costs are related to giving people fair trials and weighing previous evidence and considering that previous trials might have gotten things wrong.
In Trump’s America, you’re guilty until proven innocent, so none of that applies.
sad but almost certainly going to be true soon enough :/
In Trump’s America you’ll be guilty if he says so until executed. There will be no opportunity to prove innocence.
Sure there will. Post-execution. At which point, the excuses begin.
Why should undocumented people die for a crime while documented people shouldn’t?
There was some sort of Republican conference a couple weeks ago where he talked about how people where raping grandmas and pushing other people in front of subways. He explicitly stated, that he wanted the death penalty for not only immigrants, but also American citizens doing said crimes. But there were some “legal hurdles” to solve first.
In other words: He’ll try and build extermination camps.
It’s not about justice. It’s about finding an excuse to murder brown people.
I can think of one felon who could stand to undergo a little death penalty
In the past, treason used to be punished by death. Nowadays it’s rewarded with a seat in the oval office.
Just a little death penalty. As a treat, for the American people.
We’ve had first death penalty yes, but what about second?
Sure, because Biden reduced all but three federal death penalty cases. Trump needs more people to victimize.
The only people who should suffer from the death penalty are the ones advocating for it.
And no, that wasn’t a paradoxical statement.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg#:~:text=Julius Rosenberg (May%2012%2C%201918,to%20be%20executed%20during%20peacetime.
Let’s go on record defending murderers and rapists instead of focusing on citizen children being deported.
If you’re talking about this comment thread, people are defending equality before the law and due process, not defending rapists and murderers.
