It isn’t racist enough, so he has to take over and train it on nazi propaganda.

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    not even one-third of the valuation openai thinks they’re worth (up to 340b). and still below what investors thought in 2022 (157b). src

    i think this is old spice admitting that xAI is total bullshit and he’s giving up on making his own.

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      I thought this was because he’s still pissy they cut him out, but I guess his reasons can be multifaceted

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      i think this is old spice admitting that xAI is total bullshit

      Well, to be 100% fair, it’s all total bullshit.

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        I use a 16b reduction of deepseek-r1 on my pc at home and it’s definitely not total bullshit. It’s 10gb of local model that can solve mathematics and physics problems for you or program in python or bash. It doesn’t hallucinate (or I haven’t been able to elicit it), it’s aware of the extents of its knowledge. It works incredibly fast on an old ryzen 1600 with 6600xt. Having an open source reasoning AI that takes 10gb of SSD and about 13 gb of ram is so weird that the only thing weirder is seeing smart people dismiss it as bullshit out of hand.

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          an open source reasoning AI

          It’s still an LLM right? I’m going to have to take issue with your use of the word ‘reasoning’ here

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            OK, it just spits predicted tokens, but in answer to what you asked and sensitive to the context you provided and its predictions are arranged such that when you decode them into language they present evidence or arguments used in thinking or argumentation. It also forms conclusions, inferences and produces results to problems, if you allow me to recycle from a dictionary definition of “reasoning”. It’s not perfect and obviously you can’t cram a huge amount into a 16b distillation and it certainly can get things wrong, but you have to squint to not see reasoning when you ask it to guesstimate something or solve a mathematical problem. It is an LLM but there’s reasoning coming out?

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      Maybe below what investors or OpenAI thinks, but I think I’d take it. Unless they’ve got more secrets up their sleeve I don’t seem them ever being worth that much.

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      Open-source just turned its value to dog shit, I’d say the offer is far above its value.

      With how twitters value has gone since he bought it, I’d say he is pretty bad at this

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      How stupid is this conspiracy theory:

      If it were a threat, like “this is what you’re gonna be worth if you don’t accept, anyway” depending on how power drunk he was feeling when hitting Tweet

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      Lol is that even a thing? xAI? I’ve never heard of it, and I self host AI’s, and explore them often.

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      Unfortunately, looks like buying Twitter was a very effective choice if you take profit off the priority list

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        I mean, yeah. That was the entire point of him buying it: to control one of the biggest social media networks ever, and to use that to push and pull the public discourse however he wanted, in the interest of being a kingmaker. And it fucking worked.

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          and sadly, the amount of people who use chatgpt to try and get factual information, is quite high… which makes this even more terrifying. It’s about systematically gaining control of communication and information.

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            There’s tons of alternatives out there now that are as good or better.

            If he gets it then clearly it will be the Confederate States ChatGPT.

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              There’s tons of alternatives out there now that are as good or better.

              Are they as popular, or the default use. How many “alternatives” are actually just piping through chatgpt.

              Controlling information means getting control of the defaults, the ones people are used to using.

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        Even if you don’t take profit off the list, it could well be that he had more financial success in these other companies because he uses twitter as promotion and propaganda platform…

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      Buy a company mostly with other people’s money (he paid ~15B of the 44B offer) lose a lot, 70% or more but use it to win an election and gain 200B in profit.

      Musk is a salesman and he’s good at getting investors to get behind his crap. He’s never produced actual value but that doesn’t matter to stock values apparently.

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    Hahah he really hates Altman’s guts. Good. Love to see those two expend their energy on each other rather than on fucking all of us.

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    Shortly after the news was announced, Altman posted on X: “no thank you but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want.”

    If only their slapfight meant something good for the world. At least, I don’t see everything collected in Musk’s hands.

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    Ah so he’s again going to pay twice the amount of what it’s worth to then run of off a cliff and make it worth 20% of it’s real value within a years time?

    Seriously, why do people still believe anything this scammer says?

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      I mean, they believed everything Trump said because he was “a business man, not a politician” even though all he ever was was a failed business man. These people are functional at best - they ain’t bright.

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    Where is the “hide Musk/DOGE/Trump related posts” button ?

    EDIT : Found it ! (Damn, Lemmy is awesome 😊)

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        They’re also hiding their head in the sand, which might be a bigger issue.

        • Fox
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          There are two sides two this. There’s yours, and then there is self-care and self-protection. Being constantly bombarded with this shit, these issues, problems and the world going down hill while you as an individual can’t even begin to influence or have any kind of impact on them can and will wreck your mental health.

          In the end it needs balance. Don’t stick your head in the sand, but also don’t drown in the never ending despair that is the flood of bad news in modern media.

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          I’m still reading the old school press and listening to the radio. I’m just not on lemmy to read about it AGAIN… On top of that, it’s mostly absurd and inaplicable announcements. They crave attention so much, it’s painful to listen. Look at Musk’s video gaming scheme. Just pathetic…

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            Not sure FlyingSquid is aware of life outside Lemmy. They’re addicted to the lotus flowers here.

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            Ok, that’s fair. It is very hard to tell these days who is paying attention but overwhelmed and who is saying “this is all bad news, so I’m going to ignore it because I don’t like hearing about bad things.” The latter is the dangerous attitude. I’m glad it isn’t yours, but unfortunately Lemmy is not free of it.

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          When it’s actual news, I’ll hear about it regardless.

          I’m not going to perseverate over every headline, I have a life to live. The media is actively trying to piss us off, they’ll skew and distort and all but fabricate to keep us angry and engaged.

          I’m not doing it. I can’t recall a single time in my life that keeping up to date up to the hour has actually improved anything for me. Sitting around just knowing stuff is happening isn’t going to change my life for the better.

          I live in a safe republican state and a leans Republican district. I could send a letter to my senator, call my representative, spend hours of my time just worried about something, and still, they’ll vote how the party wants them to. Being informed and doing the things I’m supposed to do won’t change anything.

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            But being good to your neighbors and doing direct action like volunteering will make a huge difference, and you don’t need the news for that!

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      Yeah, I’m pretty much done with Lemmy right now. It’s just getting way too much. The sky is falling every five minutes.

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    But remember, all of his wealth is only potential, not realized! He ackshually can’t afford to make the world a better place!

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      The best and most affordable way for Elon Musk to “make the world a better place” would be to drop dead.

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    He bought Twitter for 44 billion… and the US presidency for 290 million.

    That is the single most dystopian shit I have ever heard. The idea that people and countries are so dirt cheap and companies are orders of magnitude more valuable is a thing that should damn their souls to hell.

    You how bad this is affecting me? I’ve been an atheist and anti-death penality most of my life… Musk has for the past while made me think that the death penalty needs to be applied to people like him (and Israeli war criminals) and not to common crooks and common murderers. He is even making me want a hell to exist so people like him can burn in it.

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    He can afford to pay twice the price of Twitter because he’s using government money. Remember he barely swung the 44 billion for Twitter. Now he’s buying something for more than double that? After putting code into the Treasury department computers to hide transactions?

    Lmao.

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      Pretty sure he’s now functionally the worlds richest man (including oligarchs with a lot of hidden wealth) what with his newly aquired un-supervised access to 6 trillion in US government funds.

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    As long as he pays for it, and not the US taxpayer…

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      How the fuck would we know? He has access to pretty much everything and has shown absolute contempt for the other branches that can stop him. He could drain social security, and no one would be the wiser till payments stopped.

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        When you government is made up of limp dick cucks… you don’t know.

        Welcome to 2025 America where nepo babies rule and men with any backbone get fired.

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      Interesting that he’s making this offer now, isn’t it. Almost like he’s recently got access to a large sum of money.

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      Nah, he’ll get foreign investors to help him and be further owned by foreign governments like he did for X.

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      I will be shocked if he uses his own money for this. He just got a ton of backdoors into the treasury department, remember? That was just last week.

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    Couldn’t even pay for twitter himself, that broke ass

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    YES!

    Finally a way to destroy the AI hype.

    Maybe the man is good for something besides wasting oxygen after all.

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      Lol does he even have the money/stocks/bank friends to buy at that price?