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    Watching Linus take a big public dump on someone who deserves it is one of life’s finest guilty pleasures. It’s like a Maya Angelou poem. You can tell he really cared, and meant it, and took some time to get it right.

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      Reading his words really slams home which side of the political spectrum truly believes in personal freedom and liberty. And it’s not the side that promotes fascism and wants to implement a Christian version of Sharia law under the Ten Commandments.

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    Just how fucking dense do you have to be in order to be surprised that a man who created one of the most popular operating systems on Earth, and then gave it away for free, might be a leftist?

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      Right wingers are extremely stupid and don’t really understand what the left stands for, they fall for all fox news strawman arguments and rage bait.

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        This is unfortunately true of both sides.

        For example, conservatives think pro- choicers are callous baby-killers who only care about abortion because it allows them to “whore around” without consequences. Liberals on the other hand, think pro-lifers are misogynists who want to ban abortion because banning it will hurt women and because they want to make the country more like The Handmaid’s Tale.

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          …and leftists know that the “abortion debate” is culture warfare injected into the less-educated by billionaires to distract from class warfare.

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            I was just using that as an example.

            Another great one is immigration. Liberals thinks conservatives want to restrict immigration because they hate foreigners. Conservatives want to stop immigration because the job market sucks and has sucked since 2008.

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          I think we know that those on the life begins at conception side have been lied to. That they’re not out to harm women.

          But the men and women in power on that side are callous bastards who don’t care that their law has already killed people

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      There’s some libertarians in the FOSS community as well, so it’s not a guarantee, but yeah, generally you’ll find that correlation.

    • @[email protected]
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      created one of the most popular operating systems on Earth, and then gave it away for free

      He didn’t created it alone and “then” gave it away for free. Since it’s begging Linux was free and that created a community who made it the most popular OS.

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        Yes. It’s called summarizing. Obviously it’s a bit more complicated. I’m not writing an essay on the history of Linux here.

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          Well it’s due tomorrow by the end of class, Mr. WoodScientist, so you better get cracking.

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          We would all settle for you not making idiotic comments that mislead anyone who isn’t already informed about this, you might know them as “the vast majority of people”

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            That comment isn’t misleading, unless you interpret “creator” as “sole contributor”

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        I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

        Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

        There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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        Yes, yes, and it’s NT/Windows or as I’ve taken to calling it NT+Windows…

        This point is pedantic and tired to the point that it has become an infamous copypasta.

        It’s also, at least as stated here, not even technically correct. A kernel is an operating system all on it’s own. It just can’t do much.

        GNU just provides the software that the user interacts with.

        Additionally, there are a number of Linux distros that are entirely free of GNU software.

        Just about everyone understands what you mean when you call Linux an OS. The pedantry is unneeded.

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          GNU is not even a requirement.

          Look at Void Linux. Look at Alpine Linux. Look at Chimera Linux.

          MUSL instead of Glibc. Clang instead of GCC. Alternative userlands. More and more Linux distros arrive with these traits everyday (many more than I listed).

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            TBF, linux is not a requirement either. You can run pretty much all the same software on BSD as you would on a typical linux system.

            I think the only thing present in all *nix distributions is Xorg, so what you call linux is actually X11/Linux, or as I’ve taken to calling it, X11+Linux…

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              You can even go full GNU if you’re willing to live on the bleeding edge and run GNU hurd (now at version 0.9)

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          The kernel is the OS

          That is arguable. The opinion that an OS needs userland apps come from those with a Unix background, you need those apps to be a Unix, you need them to be POSIX compliant.

          The kernel is necessary but not sufficient, and the S in OS is for system, the kernel is part of the system, not a system entire

  • @[email protected]
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    Wait you mean the guy who made a free and open source operating system for everyone to share is left wing!?!?!? WHAT THE FFUUUU

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        Don’t undermine the fact that Linus also made Git and I’m pretty sure some scuba diving app. Modern day essentials if you ask me!

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          I don’t think it’s undermining to credit him with exactly what he accomplished. Linus created the kernel, Stallman invented GNU.

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            Why not just post the copy pasta

            I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

            Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

            There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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              it’s just copypasta. thanks for posting. but i think it’s just less popular on lemmy

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      All it takes to be a leftist these days is to not go out of your way every day to be a raging cunt.

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        I’m sorry, is my BEING AN ASSHOLE triggering you???

        Snowflake.

        (do NOT make fun of my $1,000.00 USD trump branded FREEDOM sneakers or I’ll get upset 😡 they were NOT a scam)

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    In Europe, Linus is probably right of centre. Just let anyone do whatever except walk around with a gazillion firearms because that’s just insane.

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      nah even in Europe being trans friendly makes you at least left leaning

      we’re not many miles ahead in the societal run towards progress and acceptance, the US is just sprinting the wrong way

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        LGBT has always been a target.

        The “good guys” still (chemically) castrated one of their greatest minds that won the war for ten, just because he happened to like dicks.

        Theres a reason people wanted to reduce the victims of the Holocaust to just being Jewish and ignored all the other groups that both sides wanted to persacute.

        They did the same thing this time, target LGBT to build the movement and are now expanded to other groups.

        Hopefully everyone stands up while we still have the numbers, otherwise they’ll keep chipping away fringe groups.

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        In Europe being trans friendly has fuck-all to do with your political leanings on the left-right axis. It’s just USA warping the political discourse with their literally one-dimensional politics.

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        Nah it really depends.

        While the right tends to be religious and does not really approve anything LGBTQ-related, they’ve learned to behave and to mind their own business, which is actually fine. Respect other people, even if you don’t agree with them and as long as nobody’s getting hurt, we can all live happy lives.

        This new wave of “America-style” extreme right lunatics though, that’s a different story. Those entitled fuckers feel they’re allowed to mess with other people’s lives, and they’re due a harsh lesson in civility.

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        What the Americans call libertarians have some minority representation in Europe and they’re tolerant of minorities. Not as good as leftists but better than conservatives.

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        You don’t even have to be trans friendly. He never said he was friendly. You can just not care about what other people do with their lives.

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        It’s pretty hard to make an accurate blanket statement about what the US believes any more. There really are two very different Americas, and the evil one is in power.

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            Most of America IS working class, so that’s not true. Neither political party represents the people well, that’s certainly true, although one does so even worse than the other.

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            True if we’re talking about the divide in the uniparty, though id say the real divide in America is between the wealthy/ruling class (and the sycophants they use their wealth to indoctrinate), and the working class.

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    The Right doesn’t care what people actually believe.

    They happily quote MLK on a daily basis.

    Ray Bradbury was always anti-fascist, but he called out President Obama because there were no space missions during the Obama terms. After Bradbury died the Right tried to cherry pick quote to make him look like a life long Republican.

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      Bradbury needed to look closer then because Obama was working on NASA to get it built back up. Trump didn’t magically make rockets available in a couple years. That stuff takes a very long lead time to get right.

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        That stuff takes a very long lead time to get right.

        Yet somehow, people still think Mr. “We’ll be on Mars by 2025,” who is still launching rockets that explode mid-air, should be allowed to throw out this tried and true method. Surely, the idea of “move fast and break things” is more financially responsible than polluting debris and waste over the country. Fucking monorail salesman…

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          SpaceX was an accomplishment that got a lot done. Elon might be shit, but he hasn’t destroyed everything he’s touched.

          I think he’s always been a sociopathic narcissist. However. It was around the time of the “pedo” comment or early Covid that he completely purged anyone who would tell him no, surrounded himself with yes-men, and fried his brain with drugs.

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      per Bradbury’s Wikipedia Article

      "Bradbury considered himself a political independent.[83] Raised a Democrat, he voted for the Democratic Party until 1968. In 1952, he took out an advertisement in Variety as an open letter to Republicans, stating: “Every attempt that you make to identify the Democratic Party as the party of Communism, as the ‘left-wing’ or ‘subversive’ party, I will attack with all my heart and soul.”[84] However, Lyndon B. Johnson’s handling of the Vietnam War left Bradbury disenchanted, and from 1968 on he voted for the Republican Party in every presidential election with the exception of 1976, when he voted for Jimmy Carter. According to Bradbury’s biographer Sam Weller, Carter’s inept handling of the economy “pushed [Bradbury] permanently away from the Democrats”.[83]

      Bradbury called Ronald Reagan “the greatest president” whereas he dismissed Bill Clinton, calling him a “shithead”.[85] In August 2001, shortly before the September 11 attacks, he described George W. Bush as “wonderful” and stated that the American education system was a “monstrosity”.[86] He later criticized Barack Obama for ending NASA’s crewed space flight program.[85]

      In 2010, he criticized big government, saying that there was “too much government” in America, and “I don’t believe in government. I hate politics. I’m against it. And I hope that sometimes this fall, we can destroy part of our government, and next year destroy even more of it. The less government, the happier I will be".[85] Bradbury was against affirmative action, condemned what he called “all this political correctness that’s rampant on campuses”, and called for a ban of quotas in higher education.[21][85] He asserted that “[e]ducation is purely an issue of learning—we can no longer afford to have it polluted by damn politics”.[21]”

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        Yeah that’s uh… that sounds about right. I wonder a lot about that generation.

        Would Rod Serling, a humanist at heart, who campaigned to bring black actors onto mainstream TV sets, and always sent a message that the individual should always fight against an oppressive regime… would he too be lost in a sea of republicanism as he got older and the world changed around him?

        I’m glad we’ll never know.

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    I’m sorry, and I don’t want to be disrespectful or rude, but as a person who has no clue about computers I am very surprised the creator of Linux is still alive. I somehow thought he is super old and probably dead by now or at least not using the internet. I’m so sorry for my ignorance.

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      Computer aren’t very old! Most of the pioneers are still alive and kicking

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        That’s the thing, my dad was one of the first informatics people (computer based algebra in Russia and Germany) and my mom did her thesis on how to design a cigar shaped body in 3D on a computer. But they are in their mid to late 60s now and my dad went from being a professor of IT to “how do I open the internet” so my confusion is based on bias from my family. All his former colleagues also didn’t stay up to date with technology and they worked for an elite university in Germany.

        Anyway, good that they are alive and kicking! And glad their kicks are not so random as my folks’.

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      A good benchmark is Windows 95, and that was only 30 years ago.

      It’s easy to remember because the 95 means 1995. And 19 means the before fore times our ancestors are from.

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        Ouch. Fucking ouch. We’re right here you know. Looking over your shoulder as you write on that magic tablet. No need to denigrate ghosts.

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      Dude wrote the first Linux kernel in grad school in his early-mid 20s. He’s like 50 something now.

      Unix predates Linux by a bit, but most of those old guys made it to at least the Obama era.

      Vint Cerf is still around, and he got to see himself portrayed in one of the Matrix films.

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      Your ignorance is adorable; keep it up and don’t stop being inquisitive or apologetic of it.

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      Linux is not that old. There’s a reason why the “Actually it’s GNU+Linux…” meme exists, because Linux is built using tools that were already around, he didn’t start entirely from scratch.

      spoiler

      I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

      Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

      There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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      You might be thinking of Unix, which is what Linux is based on but not really. Unix was created in the 1960s and for sure the people who created it are passed

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      Heh, back in the early 2000s when I was busy reading up on computer history I was very surprised that a lot of Internet standard pioneers and computer science giants were still alive. Like, people from the stone age. This is such a young field.

      I seriously thought John McCarthy (creator of Lisp programming language) had reached such a status of existence that he would probably never die. (sadly, he did.)

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    To be fair what he’s described is at most Progressive. The left rejects the current economic model as a start. Workers owning the means of production instead of an owner class.

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      There’s a whole lot of river to swim between fair and equal treatment and full fledged socialism. Not everyone on “the left” sleeps with Karl Marx under their pillow.

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      I don’t really know much about his personal politics, but his work seems to speak pretty loudly about rejecting the idea of software as private property to be bought and sold by capital, which, you know, that’s more than just progressive, even if it’s just in one area.

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        Yup, my point is not that he isn’t an ally, it’s that being an ally isn’t inherently leftist.

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          I have a hard time finding a right wing or centrist ideology that gives a shit about minorities. So, while correlation doesn’t always imply causation, it usually does.

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      You jest but it’s because you chose a manufacturer that made a closed-source driver minefield and the volunteer paramedics haven’t been able to get to you yet.

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        Luckily we don’t need to be quite so diligent with the choice of wifi chips as we used to. Too many still have binary blob drivers from the manufacturer

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      You’re mistaken. He’s good and talented, but you’re mistaking normal human care for humans for awesomeness

      I suspect your perception is warped by all the people in power in America right now

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    I got all excited cause I saw that Linus had a mastodon account and I went to follow and saw that I already followed and he hasn’t posted since early last year… ah well, good on ya 2023 Torvalds

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      Despite him not posting, I visit his Mastodon profile from time to time. It has such a cute sea turtle banner. Glad to see that despite him being a kernel developer titan, he still spares a thought for the humble shell programmers too.

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    Unfortunately, it’s true: Linux is woke. And DEI. And gay.

    We need to get Elon Musk and the DOGE team on this, stat!