I lived in a West Bank settlement for 11 years. Israel’s reason for the war is ethnic cleansing and expulsion. They use the public support of the hostages to justify their actions. If you dare push back on their conquest you are called a self hating Jew and a Libtard.
Hamas are not the good guys here either, they played all their cards on October 7th where they demonstrated their cruelty and disrespect for human life. The Israeli military has been trying to match or exceed them ever since.
Trying to exceed them? Trying? Try again.
Hamas are not the good guys here either, they played all their cards on October 7th where they demonstrated their cruelty and disrespect for human life. The Israeli military has been trying to match or exceed them ever since.
Weird how many of the Israeli claims of Oct 7 are either disproven or completely unbacked by any evidence. Beheaded babies? Rape and murder of dozens including noah aragami (who is alive, and released and now is going against Israel, why??? Asked the idiots)
Hamas is an Israeli puppet, they were placed to lead gaza to ensure Palestine can’t form into a nation, literal divide and rule. Hamas in gaza, plo/fateh in west bank who are opposing ideologies. I absolutely condemn Oct 7 and can’t comprehend why their plan or goal, not only is it cruel to the innocents but surely they knew Gaza would be wiped. Not that Israel is allowed to, just that Israeli propaganda is the strongest on earth
Weird how I never mentioned any of the Israeli claims. The facts are they swept through civilian areas killing and kidnapping seems fucked enough for me.
Where the fuck are you getting your propaganda? Noah Argamani? The woman posting pictures with Donald Trump on her socials?
Hamas was thought to be containable by Bibi’s government, they funneled cash to them hoping it would keep them complacent. Hamas proved on October 7th that they did not want to be Bibi’s “puppet”.!
Israel has been working on dividing the Palestinian people for almost as long as Israel has been a state. There were growing pro Palestinian rights movements growing in Israel but Bibi has been leaning hard into Oct 7th to reignite racist fears that Israelis are indoctrinated with their entire life. There are still movements in Israel that are pushing for hostage release and for Palestinian human and civil rights. Israel/Palestine will never be a healthy democracy until all peoples within it segmented borders are given equal civil and human rights.
Stupid Hamas not handing out flowers to the people locking them into a concentration camp and killing over 33% active military soldiers and only 3% children under 18.
We have to start accepting that israel is the modern day nazi state that must be deconstructed.
I like Hasan :3
I only form political opinions based on whether the person saying it is dude bro enough.
Politics is a popularity contest after all. That’s how Joe Rogan’s moronic “politics” got everywhere. At least Hasan has an idea what he’s talking about much of the time and does on-the-ground journalism.
He is correct, but is totally the wrong person to say this.
Because?..
Look into what Hasan says VS how he acts. He preaches socialism but steals money from other content creators constantly, as one example. He’s entirely two-side and just as bad as H3.
Hasan is as bad as H3H3 genocide supporting Zionists because you do not understand how socialism works?
They both virtue signal towards different sides on that specific topic. But in their broader histories, they both just talk without research and bully random individuals for little reason. They both preach leftist politics yet choose to take from the less fortunate whenever they can.
Hasan is one of the most educated streamers pertaining the genocide constantly covering it at his own expense.
H3 is a genocidal Nazi maniac. Comparing the two shows how deeply unserious you are.
Hasan is a selfserving dickhead who poisons the well for most people not already into leftist politics. He refuses to be truly critical and reflective of stuff on his own side.
This kind of message needs to reach the “normies” to sway public opinion and put pressure on Israel to stop. But at the same time, with an 5 minutes google you see the dude brings Houthis onto his stream because “they’re just like Luffy.” That’s was not journalism, it’s was propaganda for clicks and views.
I see some of same bullshit the right pulls being done by him and his community. And I’m saying this as someone who agrees with most of his takes.
Ah so you need grifter Liberals to say it and not someone who had the correct take since the beginning.
Just admit Hasan was right all along and move on. No need to take even more Ls
Take it however you want to fit your narrative. Hasan himself said a thousand times at the beginning of his career that his objective was to be a gateway for normies to easily get into leftist politics. He lost sight of that along the way, and I blame both him and his community for it.
Lost sight by speaking out against a genocidal Apartheidsstate at a time almost nobody dared to do because they were afraid to get cancelled for it? Such a poser that Hasan guy.
He’s literally the largest leftist streamer so he’s literally one of the most successful people at moving people left currently.
The Houthis are resisting the genocide in Gaza. The interview had as much journalistic value as interviewing John Brown (or at least one of his followers) would have. You’re engaging in some George Bush level shit. Don’t turn your brain off just because the state labels a group a terrorist organization.
He was the best at some point without a doubt, but now? You guys lost the election to Joe Rogan and friends and are still refusing to look into why.
And about the Houthis, you can gaslight all you want, but Hasan isn’t a journalist and it’s obvious when he tries to act like one. If I want real journalism, I’ll stick to the few places where it still exists, not some streamer sitting on his ass commenting on everything under the sun.
Hassan sure do trigger Zionist apologist lol
Good job on that alone… He is likely a crypto tankie tho
His Ukraine takes were clown too although bow he decided that bridge ain’t worth dying on so he toned it down
So now he is good on Gaza but you accuse him of something else without mentioning the accusation?
He took Russian side when invasion happened… That was wrong.
He never took the Russian side. He accurately predicted the West throwing Ukrainians into the meatgrinder to weaken Russia and then leaving Ukraine hanging.
You know, like the West is doing right now.
I guess you also thinking russian invasion of Crimea was
a completely justifiable f*****g act
Justifiable means reasons can be made up for it by people to justify it.
Justified means he agrees with those reasons.
These are two different words.
Like genocide in Gaza?
No that is not justifiable because Zionists have no right to be present on Palestinian land.
The Russia argument is among others about the Ukrainian neo Nazis (which some folks somehow really do not want to acknowledge exist) attacking Russian speaking Ukrainians. Most famously Azov. And the whole NATO debacle.
This does not mean Russia has the right to annex Ukraine, but pro Russians use it as excuse to justify the invasion.
Hasan is Andrew Tate with unlimited support from tankie bootlickers
Hasan is a criminal who brags about keeping women as sex slaves? Can you post a source?
How is Hasan like Tate of all people?
they both enjoy jacking off to authoritarian regimes
I don’t necessarily disagree but Hasan literally plays Hamas propaganda videos on his streams. Is it really too niche to promote the views of people who don’t like Israel committing genocide and also don’t like Hamas?
Israel is doing a genocide but have you thought about both sides here?!?
Scary Hamas is not allowed a voice. Only Israeli propaganda allowed. No other perspectives!
Meanwhile over at CBS
Hamas propaganda is not a “perspective”. Keep that stuff at Lemmy.ml
Lemmy.ml does indeed show the perspective of the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto while you only want to see the Nazi side.
Keep going on about censorship though.
I guess I missed the day in history class when they talked about the Warsaw Ghetto firing hundreds of thousands of rockets at civilians, murdered babies, beheaded people and repeatedly vowed to drive every last German into the sea for 50 years.
You are describing Israel. Aka the Nazis. Know the difference. Here is an Israeli to explain it.
Lemmy is no better than reddit 🌚
I don’t really get how the bad guys are a country fighting the literal Muslim Brotherhood who continue to hold American citizens and many others hostage for 529 days.
Because they are attacking civilians, children, hospitals and UN aid deliveries, and have outspoken goals of removing all Palestinians from their homes. War crimes and ethnic cleansing seems like pretty bad guy stuff to me. Both sides can be bad.
True both sides can be bad, but one side made secularism illegal and is funded by actual terrorist organizations and the other is funded by a nation-state who actually is a secular multicultural society inclusive of LGBTQ people.
secular
The secular, explicitly Jewish state.
multicultural
With a system of apartheid and that’s committing genocide on another culture. I mean, I guess apartheid South Africa could also be described as “multicultural,” in the sense that multiple cultures existed, with one oppressing the other. Nazi concentration camps? Very multicultural.
inclusive of LGBTQ people.
That doesn’t recognize same-sex marriage and indiscriminately murders queer Palestinians alongside cishet ones.
Everything you said here is factually correct, in case anyone comes here to argue what you said.
So when you described them as a “secular, multicultural society inclusive of LGBTQ people,” you were lying, then.
If you had any actual reading comprehension and some level of functional reasoning you would see that i wasn’t describing the country of Isreal but rather who is supporting them.
Oh, I see, so it’s the US that’s rapidly descending into christofascism and conducting mass deportations and sending trans women to men’s prisons which is the “secular, multicultural society that’s inclusive of LGBTQ people,” and you’re just regurgitating shitty arguments used to justify the Iraq war because “inequality’s already been solved here, now we just need to take over other countries to force them to adopt our peaceful ways” except somehow even less coherent because the country that’s actually involved is completely indefensible and the people being targeted are being slaughtered even more indiscriminately.
I did read your “funded by” earlier, I just processed it as talking about like, the IDF being funded by Israel or something, because that’s the only thing that would be anywhere close to being relevant or resembling a point. If I donate $5 to one side in a conflict and then shoot up a playground, does that make the other side automatically justified? If I give one side a gun and then save a baby from a burning building, does that make that side automatically justified? How does this work in your mind, exactly?
The Israeli killing of US civilians goes back at least to 2003, when American activist Rachel Corrie was crushed to death in Gaza by an Israeli soldier driving an armored Caterpillar-brand bulldozer as she laid down to prevent it from moving to destroy Palestinian houses.
https://www.vox.com/israel/371491/aysenur-eygi-israel-palestine-west-bank-idf-biden-blinken
What Fanon implored us to do was to view the struggle of the oppressed as a struggle to create a new mode of being, a new form of humanity. Within the revolutionary struggles of the masses, he insisted, lie the seeds of a new humanity. The ongoing resistance in Palestine today is not a new phenomenon, but is rather the latest episode in a decades’ long struggle for freedom and what Hegel and Fanon both agree on, recognition. Not recognition to live within shrivelled little cantons and drip-fed subsistence, but recognition as a human being in the holistic sense of the term. The stone throwing, the stabbings and the bombings are a reaction to a colonial regime which denies this recognition.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20151019-palestine-through-the-lens-of-frantz-fanon/
In an alternative reality where the literal nazi’s are fighting the Muslim Brotherhood, would that mean that the nazi’s are the good guys?
Both sides can be bad. There doesn’t have to be a good side in conflicts.
Both sides-ing a genocide is bad. Difference is one side is fighting eradication for their humanity and emancipation while the other is doing the eradication for supremacy and Colonialism.
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