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    On one hand I’m happy he’s changed his opinion… On another how the fuck do you have two functioning brain cells and vote for this shit stain to begin with… 😡

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    The fact that they are still good friends with someone that actively claims(/claimed) to have supported Trump is damning for that tweetist.

    And what am I supposed to take away from this? Cool, they’re fine with racism and sexism but the economy is sancrosanct. Who is this appealing to/performing for?

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      One of the pillars that the republicans keep claiming is that they will sell everyone out for the sake of businesses, and therefore, obviously, they will make the numbers go up better than those democrats that will sap money out of the economy to pay for useless stuff like basic human needs to those that need it.

      Now you have a republican president who has:

      • Not cut any taxes
      • Imposed way more taxes
      • Tanked the markets
      • Tanked so many government benefits

      It was already provably false (going back 30 years, the only prolonged ‘numbers go down’ have been both of Bush Jr’s terms and Trump’s second term), the best republican term was Trump’s first and it’s no better than any democrat term for the past 30 years.

      So there are some people who are either fine with the racism and sexism (or don’t believe/in denial about that as made up) for the sake of better personal financial fortune, and democrats have never convinced those folks that republicans actually don’t have any track record to support that superstition. Trump has at least proven that he isn’t good, and worse he is allowed to unilaterally act by a broader party that is afraid to conflict him.

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    Just insane this is happening.

    Um, this was a campaign promise. He promised to raise tariffs, and the natural reaction of the market to new tariffs is to drop. This isn’t surprising, this is expected, and Trump said as much.

    If you didn’t want that, you shouldn’t have elected Trump. Simple as. I didn’t want that, so I didn’t vote for Trump. Simple as.

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      The knuckleheads all thought that the other countries would be paying the tariffs because they didn’t understand how tariffs work.

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        well, it’s been a quick and painful way to educate the American population on specific economic theories and topics

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          You don’t even need to get into economic theory, just tell them it’s a hidden sales tax, and that’s all they’ll need to know. Tariffs are pretty simple:

          1. product gets taxed when it comes into our country
          2. companies increase the price of goods to pay the tax
          3. products are more expensive for customers, because of that tax

          They won’t see the tax when they buy stuff, but it’s still there, and it’s largely the same as if the fed government levied a nationwide sales tax, but it only applies to imports. Most US-made stuff relies on imported materials, so it even impacts them.

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            The Harris campaign literally did this, I want to say in a sideswipe during the debate. And Trump said nuh-uh, it’s not a tax, and the campaign more or less shut up about it, wasn’t a core feature of their advertising, stump speech, or debate strategy going forward, they opted for “save our institutions” and “he’s going to raise the ever nebulous cost of living” (which got lost in the Biden is responsible for bird flu egg prices noise from the other side). Can you imagine betting it all on courting Republican voters, and being so easily talked off of the “he’s going to tax you more” hill? I know hindsight is 20/20, but that’s some frustrating shit to think about

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              “Tariffs are a Trump tax” was a core message of the Harris campaign… (Trump really was planning to tariff the entire world 10% since last August!) The last months of the campaign befoee election day are a blur to me, but did Harris really drop that line after the debate? I really doubt it.

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          A few did. Many still don’t understand, and some are doing some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to make it sound like it’s Biden’s fault somehow.

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      I find this baffeling. Multiple people, on different topics did disagree with his campaigns promises, and voted for him against their best interest. (Farmers for exemple) Their justification ? “He won’t do it”. Are you telling me you are voting for someone who promises to do things, in the hope that he does all the other things but the one that would negatively impact you ? REALLY ?!

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        Literally yes. I recall there was a study (can’t find it now) which showed that people who vote for extreme candidates often do so under the assumption that they won’t actually follow through with their promises, and hence the vote is more about “sending a message.” In some sense, it is a sick version of normalcy bias.

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        But you see, America is the Greatest Country in the World™, and therefore anyone they elect as President can’t be that bad. It doesn’t matter if he repeatedly states how he absolutely will be that bad, he won’t actually do the things he says he’ll do because those things Can’t Happen Here.

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        I always assume politicians won’t keep the promises I like and will keep the promises I don’t. Generally speaking, I’ve been pretty right about that.

        That said, Trump did these tariffs in his last term, so I don’t understand why anyone would think he wouldn’t do it again.

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        Couple of days ago there was a news item here in the Netherlands about a Dutch tulip grower. And his dad was wearing a MAGA hat. And this old man was saying that Trump was doing the right thing even though his business is negatively affected by Trump’s tariffs. Seriously, conservatives all have brain worms or something. Or they hate everyone else so much that they would gladly suffer to see other people get hurt.

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          Our agrarian sector is indeed not known for its progressive outlook, so I’m not surprised.

          Currently nitrogen deposition is a big issue as it fucks up local plantlife. Their lobby has been downplaying this problem since it became known in the fucking 80’s, hindering every political attempt to take action.

          Now that the point has been reached where action needs to be taken they are all Pickachu-faced and shouting “how did this happen, it’s the fault of the leftwing treehuggers”. No, fuck the farming lobby in particular for kicking that can down the lane for 40 years.

          Blissfully ignoring the consequences of adverse actions and acting as if nothing bad will come out of it is fully ingrained in their thought process.

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      Even if you expected some tariffs the degree and arbitrariness have exceeded almost every expectation. Charitably you could have assumed he meant he would implement tariffs in a way that makes some kind of sense, you know, warning well in advance so businesses can actually plan for them.

      It’s kind of amazing the market hasn’t dropped even more now that the administration has revealed that it has no guard rails guiding Trump’s dementia fueled decisions and that he doesn’t give a fuck about wall street at all.

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        Yeah, Trump is a real estate guy, and I expect he has a relatively small allocation to stocks in his portfolio. So he probably doesn’t care all that much about Wall Street.

        That said, he did give several warnings. He campaigned on a platform of across the board tariffs (I think he even mentioned his 10% figure), he tried doing tariffs at the start and backed off, and now he’s committing to them. So that’s several months of warning, not necessarily for the actual numbers, but for the general direction.

        It absolutely is alarming though. But that’s kind of Trump’s MO, he holds his cards close, and is usually bluffing, but sometimes he actually takes action.

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    We’ll see in 2028. Until then, they voted for this. They got exactly what was advertised. I’m happy they’re fucked, along with all the centrists and moderates. I hope you all lose every. Single. Penny.

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    I’ll believe they’ll vote Dem when I see it. Trump was a fuck up before he was president and a terrible businessman. He was a fuck up when he was president and got hundreds of thousands of people killed unnecessarily because of his narcissism. He very plainly showed who he was in his words and actions. People still voted for him THREE TIMES.

    They’ll fucking check the box for him or any other R next time because god forbid they take responsibility or self reflect at all for electing that shit stain.

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      Voting conservative is a failure of empathy. Once it affects them themselves, then they see the downsides.

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        I used to believe the same thing, but I watched as each and every Republican president would tank the economy, give away cash to the rich by the truck load, and double the countries debt with some fucking boondoggle. And every time, they would somehow blame it on the Dem president before or after them.
        It may have been about ideology 30 years ago, but not anymore. It’s even moved way past team sports. It really is a cult. There’s just no other way to describe it… It is a cult of hate.

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    Yet for some reason they will never lose enough support to be ousted.

    We all know what it’s going to take to remove them.

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        Do you really think they will give up power in 4 years? Trump told us we would never have to vote again. He is talking about a 3rd term and deporting American citizens.

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    Sends innocent people to slave prison: who cares. Messes with my 401(k). BRING OUT THE GUILLOTINE!!

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    “Run the country like a business!”

    Hires CEO who ruined every business he ever touched.

    This fascist bankrupted a casino.

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    Yeah… Call me in 4 years when they vote republican again because it’s not trump on the ballot and something something evil Democrats. I’d bet the same people saying this in 2025 were saying something similar when trump caused the COVID crash by doing fuck all to prevent the spread.

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      You’re right because the media has been captured by the right wing. And already to vote for Trump or believe in Elon means there’s something peasant brain about you.