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I think all individual murders should be prosecuted equally.
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UH CEO was provably guilty of deep evil and harm against millions of Americans. El Paso Walmart shoppers not at all. Even the premise that they as a race are somehow bad for America is highly suspect. Among the murdered, only 8 were Mexican. 13 Americans and a German. The political terrorism charge that applies to UH CEO, applies way more to this murder. 50/50 there’s a pardon, and new GOP speaking tour.
Ugh, for somebody from Europe to visit the states and then get gunned down in a mass shooting at a Walmart, could there be a more stereotypical “experience America” than that?
Having to deal with the hospital bills afterwards if they survive?
Damn it, you are totally right.
It’s been pretty clear for sometime that in the US laws don’t apply equally to everyone.
They should. But when the Supreme Court is corrupt, this is what happens.
It’s all courts, let’s not pretend it was different for most people 10 years ago.
But the Supreme Courts dictate lower courts
Yes I know, but (1) most lower court actions and decisions are never reviewed by SCOTUS and (2) it’s not like the lower courts were doing great and every once in a while SCOTUS overturned them. This has long, long been a been a very consistent and pervasive problem in the federal courts. It’s not as simple as “SCOTUS pulls the strings of the lower courts,” quite far from it.
Circa 1776, more specifically.
There were two immigrant teenagers murdered in NYC the same day as Thompson. Nobody cared in the slightest.
Obviously not. As we’ve already ascertained from OP, one murder of a rich is worth more than 23 murders of non-white commoners. A mere 2 non-citizen commoners isn’t going to make them blink an eye.
And just think of the media circus if the world didn’t like and support Luigi the more they hear about him, they tried a blitz at first and it just helped Luigis popularity… so this is the silent mode.
Serial killers like Ted Bundy, state charges. Even though he crossed several states. Yet this has federal charges for some reason.
“For some reason”. I’d go with “For removing a useful tool of the Oligarchs”
I’m certainly not the 1st, or thousandth person to say it…we have a legal system, not a justice system. Luigi showed us all a flash of a justice system.
They really needed him to confess to killing 23 people in public under CCTV cameras, it would have been dozens of people’s words against his and the only hard evidence HD video of it happening! How else could they have won the case?
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His legal fund on give send go broke 800k today
give, send, go broke
How many non-billionaire’s lives are equal to one billionaire’s life?
If you had less than 24 I have bad news for you.
Multi millionaire right? I think he was the top 1 percent of 1 percent, but I don’t think he broke 1 billion.
3/5
Although it’s more like 3/5000
To play Devil’s advocate, the bottom one was offered a plea deal. That’s different than not pursuing the death penalty.
To play Devil’s advocate, the bottom one was offered a plea deal.
That’s kinda the point. Why wasn’t Mangione offered a plea deal?
Also, why did the DOJ intervene and add the federal qualifier of “murder in furtherance of an act of terrorism” to Mangione’s charges in order to put the death penalty on the table (NY state doesn’t have the death penalty), but didn’t add it to the charges of the guy who murdered 23 Hispanic people specifically to terrorize the Hispanic community?
Why is a plea deal even necessary for a mass murderer?
Get a guilty plea, eliminates a lot of appeals, dude spends life in prison.
Don’t know the story, but it’s common for snitching on others in your private chat group who drove you toward such things.
Plea deals are not unusual. It speeds up the process. Plus, not everyone approves of the death penalty, so a DA securing a plea deal by taking death off the table can even be favourable to some people.
I am against the death penalty. I am not in favor of the state executing someone accused of killing a rich person while pretending that keeping the White Supremacist alive is a nod to my ideology.
I am also against the death penalty, and I’m just not sure what this comparison brings. They’re not even being prosecuted by the same people.
That comparison would be more valid if the Federal Government hadn’t stepped in to add terrorism charges to Mangione’s case in a state that doesn’t have the death penalty.
They literally could be tried by the same people, except the federal government does not see killing 23 minorities as bad a crime as killing one rich white guy.
I’m pro-killing-shitty-people, but I don’t trust our justice system to consistently and accurately determine guilt, and thus I must be against the death penalty as currently implemented.
I am against the death penalty full stop. There is no way for humans, let alone groups of humans, to implement kill people justly.
I’m just saying that executing people the government doesn’t like while not doing so for right wing terrorists is neither a compromise nor a step in the right direction.
And why was that not offered to Luigi?
They think they have a solid frame-up
Plea Deals don’t go to people pleading innocent. You don’t get leniency for dragging the judicial process out and costing the state and federal lots of time and money.
Yes they do. You agree to change your plea to guilty in exchange for some guarantees regarding sentencing.
Yes, precisely, by taking a plea deal you change your plea to guilty. Not innocent.
Do we know that one wasn’t offered? I was under the impression that Luigi has been pretty set on fighting the charges from the get go.
That could certainly be part of an answer to my question, were I to receive one.
“Why was Luigi not offered a plea deal?” implies that you know that he was not offered a plea deal. I asked, do we know that? It would be news to me.
A valid answer to my question could be “you’re wrong, he was.” I’m fully open to being wrong. The fact that nobody mentioned that he was is a strong indicator that he wasn’t.
The burden of proof of your own statements does not fall upon others.
No, I’m asking a question.
it is but the problem with playing devil’s advocate is that sometimes you actually advocate for the devil.
Hardly the case here, they’re just pointing out facts, for those of us who prefer our righteous outrage guided by truth rather than carelessness.
They gotta get rid of him, he’s a symbol to people.
None of the 23 was a millionaire.
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Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%. But here’s a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who’s in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air. Because wealth is not money, it’s an imaginary number.
P.S. And it’s more like your parents don’t speak to you, because you are a 13yo kid in an adult body.
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Very few are discussing a wealth tax, and when they do, it’s usually on net worth over 10mil.
The 500k is annual income, which you don’t magically generate from owning a few houses. And yeah, people making that much annually should be paying a higher percentage tax compared to a public school teacher or barber, etc, but due to corruption and lack of regulation they don’t always do so.
I got to the end of my dumbass comment and was reminded that this was why no one talks to me, so I felt the compulsion to lash out in anger at the smallest possible display of empathy
What the fuck was that last sentence? Why the fuck would you assume about someone you never met, that their parents cut them off?
Thats some mean-spirited, personal shit you got going on. Like a bitch.
Plot twist, it’s the parents.
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Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth
Yes, however no one is specifically calling on land owners to be taxed.
Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k, so your parents will pay it 100%.
Also wrong, the common consensus in the U.S. is that you should be taxed if you make over 400k a year. Make over 400k, anyone paying attention recognizes how this is just going to be circumvented by the current tax loopholes already in place.
But here’s a trick, wealth estimations will be done by the government on an annual basis and will change based on who’s in charge. One year you might have 1m wealth and next year you might have 2m out of thin air.
Please name a single time that the U.S. treasury has gone ‘actually the dollar is worth double what it’s worth’ . Please, I would like you to point to that happening. And if you’re referring to markets fluctuating as a result of a new presidency, holy shit I’m not explaining how that has nothing to do with the government ‘deciding’ the value of a currency.
P.S. : you come off like an asshole, an asshole that barely knows what they’re talking about.
Nobody asked me but I am specifically calling for a Land Value Tax. Land values are already part of state-level property tax assessments, which are relatively stable and don’t double over a year.
We already tax wealth a little bit and it works great. We should do it more!
I think that, without many things changing first, that would be a great way to cause a lot of people to lose their homes.
Plenty of house poor folks who are just trying to keep their home/land. They would need to be considered too.
Land Value Tax, not a parcel tax. Most of the revenue would come from cities.
Ever heard of “market value”?
Real estate is ALWAYS part of wealth. Most people want to tax wealth starting at 500k,
Guy who doesn’t understand what a homestead exemption is
Bro, go get a hug.
Something tells me that Trump will soon be pardoning everyone accused of a hate crime. But only the white on nonwhite kind. He might even go so far as to demand the release of Alexandre Bissonnette from Canada and grant him American citizenship. Bissonnette was the Quebec City Mosque shooter in 2017 who shot 7 Muslims dead in Quebec. He is a Canadian born Canadian citizen. He was inspired to do primarily by Ben Shapiro.
“Montoya (DA) said he supports the death penalty and believes Crusius deserves it. But he said he met with the families of the victims and while some were willing to wait as long as it took for a death sentence, there was an overriding desire to conclude the process.”
NPR news
This is the problem
You can throw a man that pleads guilty in jail for 90 consecutive life sentences and be “over”
Now, to see if he really did it and deserves the death penalty…yeah going to have to take a lot longer to just make sure…
