The commander of the base wrote, “I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the US administration discussed by Vice-President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base.” in an email and was thus dismissed. In dismissing her, the Pentagon stated this reason. “Actions [that] undermine the chain of command or to subvert President [Donald] Trump’s agenda will not be tolerated at the Department of Defense.”
Loyalty to trump takes precedence to the truth.
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Chain-of-command means orders come from your immediate superior doesn’t it? Adding “Or to Subvert President Trump’s agenda” pretty much nullifies that and by default makes our military on par with Russia’s. Good weapons do fuck and all when not used as intended.
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
That’s not what chain of command means. It simply establishes the hierarchy. Commands can be given by anyone who outranks you, or holds a billet that comes with higher authority. Trump and Vance at the top of that chain and can issue legal orders to literally anyone in the US military.
Not that the rule of law matters, but the VP is not in the military chain of command. There is no vice commander-in-chief. It goes pres then his Chiefs of Staff/Generals.
Of course they could just lean on the undermining trumps agenda of stripping Greenland of its resources, but that’s not why the base was there. Or I guess that is why it’s there now…idk.
No, second in command is the Secretary of Defense. But if the Vice President is acting on behalf or under direction of the president it could be seen as a billet. Walking around bases every unit has pictures of their chains of command, all of them include the VP and have for a long time.
Makes sense since VP could have to assume role of president instantly if president dies or is removed from office or resigns. But if they are only disabled, then VP becomes acting president. Made me wonder whether acting president or the disabled president will be commander-in-chief then.
I googled a bit and could’ve figured it out probably. But that’s a pretty niche question.
I know this will bring in the downvotes but I think LLMs aren’t horrible for use like this.
I asked it “if the president of the US was disabled then the vice president would become the acting president but not the actual president but would that mean that they would also be the acting Commander in Chief?”
And got a decent reply with a low chance of any hallucinations, because of the nature of the facts and it showing it’s reasoning.
Yes, if the Vice President becomes the Acting President due to the President’s disability, they also assume the powers and duties of the Commander in Chief. Here’s why:
- Presidential Succession and the 25th Amendment:
- The 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution addresses presidential succession and disability.
- Section 3 and 4 of the 25th amendment specifically outline the processes for the vice president to become acting president in cases of presidential disability.
- When the vice president becomes the acting president, they assume “the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”
- Commander in Chief is a Presidential Duty:
- The role of Commander in Chief is a fundamental duty of the President of the United States, as outlined in the Constitution.
- Therefore, when the vice president becomes acting president, that person gains all of the powers and duties of the president, including the commander in chief role.
- Presidential Succession and the 25th Amendment:
The concept of chain of command also implies that higher rank alone does not entitle a higher-ranking service member to give commands to anyone of lower rank.
There grey areas in parallel chains but all chains end in Washington at the capital.
They can issue orders. Not all are legal. But since they replaced the JAGs, this might be closer to reality.
Hopefully they all remember their oaths of enlistment are to the Constitution first, THEN the president.
If they remembered, they would have rolled through the supreme court building the day they said we have kings again.
Military ain’t gonna do shit.
I’ve heard that the green crayons are good for abstract thought about legality.
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
It’s one for the books to be sure. Also there are a huge portion of Americans cheering it on because they’re too stupid to know better.
We don’t need Putin as an excuse for Trump’s (and his lap dogs’) behavior. This bunch would do this no matter what.
They wouldn’t be in the fucking white house without Putin.
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
Yeah this. Very much.
Without Trump Putin would’ve been finished, but since Trumputler, Russia is still an actual danger to the world.
Russian disinfo is just so fking prevalent and idiots fall for it. And most people are idiots.
Trump would be like this regardless of Putin
Trump wouldn’t be the president without Putin.
JD Vance is the biggest fucking pussy I have ever seen
He has neither the depth nor the warmth.
His loveseat does, though.
Correction, the biggest pussy you’ve seen so far I this pitiful Administration.
Surely this won’t do anything to undermine an already plummeting morale.
Gotta have that rock bottom morale for the upcoming war with former allies…
View 1: you should follow chain of command as a unified command is necessary for military operations. Any personnel going against the direction is counted as rogue. (benefits military)
View 2: Public Relations of the country you are in requires the ability to deescalate situations and unwind tension, thereby requiring the communication of separation. (benefits local units and local community)
View 3: moral obligations of one’s self pushes you to do the right thing. (benefits self and possibly local unit)
In my opinion, I believe this was an action of view 2 and also happened to include view 3. But that’s just like… My opinion.
It’s literally against the UCMJ to take part in political action as a uniformed member of the military. To me it sounds like she was trying to “cya” and of course, this administration has such thin skin that they couldn’t have someone do that.
Fragging is gonna make a comeback in a time of “peace.”
*Behold the Underminer! I am always beneath you, but nothing is beneath me! I hereby declare war on peace and happiness! Soon, all will tremble before me! *
And what agenda might that be?
I imagine it’s “Expand the base whether Denmark agrees or not.”
Hi Greenland, here’s our new lease contract for our base, we want to expand our footprint to cover 836,000 sq mi.
While destabilizing the US economy
If the snowflake starts to melt his mascara might run.
Hero. Just trying to make everything work like it’s supposed to.
The Most Incompetent Administration In History can say what it wants to (and will) and the pithed chuds who make up the voting base will eat it all up, but anyone with any sense can see what’s going on.
Only if they watch/listen to more than Fox News and Newsmax and OAN. Here’s the fun thing… they don’t.
Not relevant to the headline, but why the fuck would greenland want independence? Unless they are excited for digging up their entire country (which I would assume they don’t want as they like the landscape as it is afaik), they are completely reliant on danish funding.
She is a patriot. Col Susannah Meyers deserves a medal, and I’m sure she would do 10,000x better as VP than the jerk we have now.
Vance seems smart, and obviously he married outside his “race” so somewhat open-minded. Which means he is acting out of pure conscienceless ambition. IMO worse than Trump, who is an evil idiot.
he even has a degree in philosophy…
and trump isn’t an idiot, he just plays the idiot so idiots will vote for him… just like george dubya bush…
i mean, he’s not very smart or as smart as he thinks he is, but he’s not as stupid as he seemsMaybe that claim would hold water if there was any evidence at all that Trump wasn’t a brain damaged idiot spiraling into senility. It stops being pretending when every single appearance, every interview, every second of contact, every policy enacted, every opinion presented, and every decision made are all exactly what a complete idiot would do. He’s not playing 4D Chess, he doesn’t have some secret master plan, he’s a pants shitting moron who’s hateful rhetoric and willingness to punch down appealed to the low end of the bell curve and got them excited enough to vote.
He’s a certified idiot
The way he talks, looks, acts. I’m pretty sure he’s an idiot.
Yeah gotta disagree with you there. Trump is senile and baseline average at best.
Maybe he married outside of his race because she’s a hot piece of ass and out of his league and he didn’t put much more consideration into it than that?
Honestly, I feel like we’re one press conference away from someone calling artificial intelligence “Adobe Illustrator.
Replacing base commanders is very indicative of a potential military coup
May you live in interesting times
Too fucking interesting if you ask me
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Ohhhh nooo, anyway. Who is getting fired next? US firings became regular since trump came into the office.
Because a military operated solely by loyal incompetents has worked out so well for Russia.
