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By that logic they saw a god. But I’d ask if they need a starship first. Then that would confirm if they were a god.
I swear this post is straight from 9gag. It feels like it was made 15 years ago…
15 years ago it was mostly lolcats and rage comics.
Pretty sure 15 years ago was like…1998
Me too buddy, me too.
My experience with random processes: on large scales, things either happen 0 times or many times. So I find the idea that life exists in only one place pretty implausible.
That’s the rule for astronomy. If it happens once, it always happens; we just haven’t seen it yet
Define life
If humans are born of the universe, and humans are sentient. Is the universe not its self sentient?
The universe created life, and life experiences the Universe. The universe is thus aware of its self.
This video depicting the concept of the Universe as a egg may also blow your mind.
The moon is not sentient.
Why won’t you get the vaccine? “Because idk what’s in it.” Why did you get Chinese dick and hair pills? “Because I NEED it!”
“Was your burger tasty?”
Unsure if relevant, since this is a meme post, but for anyone interested: faith is quite a complex concept. And this silly atheist vs religious conflict is so pointless. It does nothing but elevate some people’s egos and infuriate others.
Sadly, both sides are heavily uninformed. Most atheists spent at most 3 seconds studying religion, while most religious people never questioned a single thing about their religion. How can you understand somebody and their point of view, if you haven’t even imagined yourself in their shoes, let alone walked in them?
Short story is: to ‘believe’ in God, or any other religious entity, does not mean ‘to think He exists’. In fact, you can ‘believe’ in any god, while being completely convinced they don’t exist. Fact and faith are fully separate.
At least some confusion here is intentionally created by religious institutions, like the Catholic Church. Most of what they do goes against the Bible and Jesus’ teachings, but it’s not like they care. Focusing on Christianity here, because that’s what I studied the most (my country is Christian). Same applies to Judaism and Islam. Other religions less, since these three have the biggest, most organized official structures (massive red flag in case it wasn’t obvious).
Anyway, I invite everyone to read about and learn their so-called enemies’ ways instead of blindly ridiculing them.
This makes no sense. Most people when asked about the literal existence of god say they think so. Americans only fell below 50% very recently…again the literal existence of god (the numbers are similar for the Gallup poll on belief in god). You’re drawing a dichotomy that does not exist.
About half of American adults believe in the actual existence of a spiritual patriarchy and here you are trying to claim belief!=belief in existence. Unless you have something to back it up, I’m calling bs.
What you’re saying is completely true, but in no way contradicts what I said. I was referring to the fundamental idea of faith. I never said people adhere to it, and that nobody actually thinks God, or whatever else, exists.
Obviously, a lot of people do. Just like a lot of people think the Earth is flat or that chocolate milk comes from chocolate cows. A huge number of people are uneducated, have been fed propaganda and manipulated for years. I don’t think anyone needs any convincing that churches lie to and scam people on a daily basis for personal gain. But doesn’t make faith or religion itself a lie.
Similarly, there’s quite a few self improvement gurus who make up false ideas about self improvement and feed lies to their many, many followers. But does that make self improvement itself a lie, or a pointless dream?
“I don’t think anyone needs any convincing that churches lie to and scam people on a daily basis for personal gain.”
And yet televangelists exist. Megachurches exist. Churches have been scamming Christs sheep for millennia all for them to be none the wiser.
First, paragraph breaks. Please use them.
Second, that isn’t how everyone feels. That is how you feel. People do in fact find it utterly hypocritical to see one thing one way and not the other and then claim to have knowledge above anyone else.
Third, aliens are more likely than gods. Mathematically speaking.
Statistically speaking*
You’re using the term faith differently than everybody else.
Reading the Bible has made me despise Christianity even more. It’s not the content that upsets me, it’s the brash hypocrisy that Christian Nationalists operate by that upsets me. Too many Christians go directly against Christs teachings. It’s not rocket science either. It’s clear, concise teachings to love your neighbor as thyself… And yet they’ll say oh no that’s taken out of context… Fucking ridiculous. Christ would flip so many Christian tables. That might be what the second coming is tbh. Just flipping these flagrant hypocrites tables.
I’d wager most millenial-and-older atheists probably attended mass regularly as kids. Many are probably baptized, confirmed, had communion, etc.
We just realized it’s all bullshit intended for social control at some point along the way.
Same kids who stopped saying the pledge in school as soon as they realized they could.
Zoomer and younger atheists…yeah, they might have not had that experience. Probably because they were brought up by already-atheist (or at least barely-believing, twice-a-year types) gen-x and older millennials.
Completely agree. I had the same experiences as a kid. Organized religious institutions always go against the religions they pretend to preach. Religious belief should be a personal choice, not a mass brain washing.
The Catholic Church requires that Christians indoctrine their children into Christianity since they are born. But this is the Church speaking, not Christianity or Jesus. In fact, the New Testament clearly says that it is perfectly acceptable for the family of a Christian to reject Christianity. The sole fact that they love the part of their family that is Christian, is enough.
But of course, barely any self-proclaimed Christians have ever opened the Bible, let alone read it. And the Church coveniently doesn’t recommend reading it.
Funny you should mention that.
My paternal grandparents were very religious, and my dad attended mass regularly as a kid and went to Catholic school.
However, I don’t think he’s willingly set foot into a church except for funerals since I was born.
My grandmother would drag me to church several times a week though.
Didn’t stop my dad from threatening to baptize my kid behind my back when my first kid was a baby. I think it was said in jest, or maybe to troll me…but my oldest is 8 now and neither of my kids have been around my parents unsupervised. Reap what you sow.
And the Church coveniently doesn’t recommend reading it.
That’s their own fault. Should’ve left it in Latin. Or Aramaic.
Well God is an alien, by definition.
If god is anything, why not crab
He’s supoosedly everywhere, but i don’t think he has any papers, he’s an illegal alien
Deport Jésus (Christ)!
No anti authoritarian rebels allowed here. Probably ms13
People worship all kinds of concepts that they’ve never seen.
Maybe god wasn’t capable of creating aliens…
Maybe God created the speed of light to keep players region-locked.
God is all powerful, but only up to and limited too creating one sentient life form
In my younger years I tried to make sense of the ‘God created humans’ thing by envisioning lots of aliens species with lots of gods, each catering for their own pets. Then I wondered if these gods would compete over who had the best pet, or would go to war with each other.
Logic in religion? That’s your first mistake there.
Well I’ve never seen air. Nor oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, the list goes on and on. I’ve never seen Ukraine, but I do believe there is some awful shit going on over there.
If you’ve seen that blue-ness in the sky you’ve seen air.
We can weigh all of those gases. We can also blow them up. We can also look at emissions spectrums. There’s a lot of ways to test gases. That’s why we know they exist.
As for Ukraine… People have been there. There are pictures and videos. Thousands of years of history.
I’m not sure if you’re joking or not because I’ve seen people with similar arguments.
If you are not sure if I’m joking, I’m giving you permission to assume that in fact I am joking.
Instagram reels have made it impossible for me to tell when people are joking haha. No matter how ridiculous the position, someone on there will have it.
I’m not using (being used by) any meta products at this time.
That why I don’t believe in Bird
It’s really stupid to not believe in aliens given the size of the universe.
It’s really stupid to believe aliens visited earth given the size of the universe.
What about the American people constantly complaining about aliens illegally entering their country? Explain this!
Fucking Englishmen in New York.
I also agree with this statement, although it’s well within the realm of possibility that life on Earth was seeded by an ancient extraterrestrial civilization. That’s a timescale of a few billion years.
But it’s still not as stupid as thinking that the supreme creator of the infinite universe has a personal interest in how you live your life.
That would make some sense if not for overwhelming proof of evolution of both, animals and nature that started out with pretty much nothing
I like to entertain the idea that something similar to mushroom spores were emitted throughout a part of space and mostly didn’t work but, where it did, life was ready to ride evolution all over again from just the basics. Just fun to think about. I’m not a witch, don’t burn me
Those are 2 completely different statements.
It wasn’t a refutation. It was added information.
Sorry I was not 100% sure so I figured I’d respond just in case.
Ancient alien theorists say yes
People who are interested in aliens and UFOs rarely solely make this argument. Often, they’ve encountered or somehow know of these aliens.
If aliens haven’t been to earth, how come all the bigots keep bitching about illegal ones? 🤔
I’d believe it when I see evidence. Otherwise it’s just a possibility.
We are the evidence. Life can happen. It’s been proven. If it’s happening here, it’s crazy to think we are somehow special and it’s not happening somewhere else out there.
Also given the scale of time of the universe. We as humans have only existed for a small amout of time on the vast scale of things.
Countless alien civilizations may have existed and destroyed themselves, and may others may have not come into existence yet.
I think we should be looking inter dimensionally for alien life rather than extraterrestrial.
How?
What is a category error? I’ll try Basic Philosophy again for 400 Alex.
Iamverysmart atheists understanding the nuances of religion and faith being an inherently irrational yet human response to existential dread challenge (impossible)
human response to existential dread
I realize this was likely not intended, but you’ve ironically removed most of the nuance in why religions came to exist in this statement lol.
The post is actually by a theist that believes in aliens, and wants others to do so too
So…to be clear you think we don’t know religion is an irrational response to existential dread? Cause…I have a bridge to sell you.
