better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support
Interestingly you can get all that for free now. Yarr
$90 to replay a 8 year old wiiu game. Why would anyone?
I played it six years ago, but with a better experience than switch 2… thank you, cemu
I’ve been wanting to play botw so I tried it on cemu awhile back but couldn’t get it to work. I’ll have to try it again and see if I can figure out what I was doing wrong.
As relevant now as it was over a decade ago.
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Nintendo fanboys are notorious suckers
There are lots of people with disposable income who don’t have the technical capability to pirate.
$10 to replay it, replay meaning you already have the switch version. Or free if you have switch online expansion pack. It’s only going to set you back 90 (instead of 80) if you’ve never owned it and you want it on switch 2
Isn’t that crazy?
I think breath of the wild has always been overpriced lol. And it’s not news that Nintendo rarely ever discounts their older games. But the vast majority of people who are gonna want to play it on switch 2 already own a copy ( I hope).
I wonder what this’ll do to the price of used physical copies
I wonder what this’ll do to the price of used physical copies
Probably nothing. The used prices aren’t necessarily reduced based on the retail price of the new copy, but by the supply vs the demand. If they have hella supply and no demand, they will still be heavily discounted.
You might be surprised. I came to the Switch party super late when I bought my kid a switch Christmas 2023. He’s all over Zelda now, has BotW, TotK and even Skyward Sword on his Switch. For him, these games are all from the last year. He turned 2 the year BotW was released.
It’ll be the same story with Switch 2. Some kid who might not even be born yet will get a Switch 2 in 8-9 years and come across these games with all his school friends.
I doubt I’ll go the Switch 2 path with the kids. I haven’t seen a reason to upgrade, yet. I’m thinking of the Steam Deck - while the Nintendo had a fairly cheap entry point to get on the platform, I’ve spent enough on games to negate the difference between a Switch and a Steam Deck - where I already have a 500+ game library to play on it.
This pricing is why Nintendo doesn’t want emulation of its games, while other companies don’t give a shit because they either figured out how to port their shit over to PC or did a multiplatform release to begin with. Steam was the largest reason piracy for games has literally shrunk and why so many from the scene stopped. Make it cheap and easy to get the game, no need for people to pirate it. Nintendo did the exact opposite and has tried and tried to keep it on a closed platform…yet it’s one of the most emulated company out there.
Nintendo makes great games and has super scummy business practices. The ideal combo for pirating.
Lol that’s the truth.
I bought a physical copy of BotW while I was living Japan. My Nintendo account is U.S. My copy of TotK is Digital to boot.
Fuck me, right? lol. What an ass hole I am!
Not if you bought it on the WiiU like I did.
Yeah! I forgot it was on the wiiu that actually how I played it too. I later got a switch and played through it again though.
$90 is still an insane ask for an almost decade old game but at least they’re not completely screwing over the people who already own it for once.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a Switch, once manufacturing ceases.
Nintendo famously never discounts. But this is actually Nintendo’s way of not only never discounting, but increasing the price over time.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a Switch
A new one, but pretty soon the market will be flooded with second hand switches
There are Switch games being released in 2026. I expect new Switches will continue to be produced at least until then.
Sure, I just mean, look how long BOTW has been sold - it will be a fraction of that length of time before Switches cease being sold. Mostly I was pointing to the system refresh as not only a chance to reissue BOTW, but to reset pricing expectations.
There will be a future where BOTW S2-edition is still being sold and the Switch is not. From them on, BOTW will be a $90 game, since it will be the only way to get it.
Yup, which is exactly how Nintendo wants it. I feel like they’ve always had things that mitigated their BS “never lower the price of games, EVER” philosophy, most notably cheaper hardware than the competition and a lower price point for games ($60 rather than $70). Now they have a console that’s almost as much as a PS5 AND are charging MORE than $70 for some of their games? Maybe the market can handle their excessive pricing, but I hope they get knocked down a peg.
One of the issues I have with the new open-world style Zelda games is that they don’t have replay value. After finishing each once (which takes a lot of time), I can’t actually imagine wanting to go back and play them again. So yeah, Nintendo can charge what they want and it isn’t very appealing regardless. Increased resolution isn’t going to change the experience.
I replay OoT and MM at least once a year. I can see myself replaying these new Zelda games at some point and enjoying them, but I won’t likely pay $90 for the privilege.
Increased resolution probably wouldn’t make a difference, but keeping the framerate at a steady 30 (or even better 60) would make a noticeable difference. At least it did when I played it on PC
Interestingly I’d say the complete opposite: BotW was my fave and I feel I could replay it in quite a different style (e.g. trying to beat it without any dungeons, trying to 100% it), whereas the others are all very linear and my only option is to play it again in the same way.
(Obviously I don’t need to pay any additional money to do either though!)
The others are certainly more linear, but you could also do things like the three heart challenge. Or emulate and play a randomized game.
I’m not as against this as everyone else. If you want a AAA game without microtransactions, in-game advertising, and all the other bullshit you get nowadays, you’re gonna have to expect the company will want to make that money up in other places. Games have been like £50/$60 since the N64 days and we’ve been lucky that the prices haven’t risen with inflation.
There are a lot of AAA titles without all that bullshit and none of them costs that kind of money, on any platform.
Yeah but just for a rerelease with some new paint?
This is a fucking 8 year old game. Fuck all the way off with this shit.
As someone that argued this the other day, volume and production costs are waaaaaay different than then. This is a false equivalence.
Everyone also always forgets that they save money on distribution massively. And that the amount of games sold has increased significantly.
It’s not as simple as dollars had more value, games should cost more.
$90 for an 8 year old game, lmao you are a clown. Some of you people that play on consoles are losing your fucking minds, especially on prices and costs on things.
Throwing away so much money on consoles and accessories, online subs, games, you could literally just build a PC for cheaper
Games were $60 in SNES days, I know I paid around that for Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger
Chrono Trigger MSRP was $70 iirc and some titles were even $80
How much were they 8 years later?
Nintendo is still justifying my choice to never give another penny to Nintendo.
Same. I loved the Switch. My next gaming console will be the Steam Deck. Fuck Nintendo, it’s over.
I’ve owned every Nintendo console. It used to be that Nintendo = cheaper console, often cheaper base games compared to of the rest of the industry. Wii remained $50 after the other guys had moved to $60 and the Switch stayed at $60 after they moved to $70 (aside from their dirty little trick of TotK). Now their console is almost as expensive as a PS5 and they’re leapfrogging even the $70 standard to price their top-tier games at $80? Sheer greed and hubris. Maybe there are enough rabid Nintendo fans to support their pricing, but I won’t be one of them.
Steam Deck is a handheld PC not a console. Also it runs a lot of Switch games better than Switch itself.
It’s a console and a PC in one package! Or you feel like the other consoles don’t have an operating system in them?
Well, your phone has OS as well, does it count as a console? Also you can’t run PC software on a console, can you?
Nope, it doesn’t have a controller built-in and its main purpose isn’t gaming. You can’t run PS games on a Switch, does that somehow magically make either not a console?
Consoles are wannabe PCs.
It’s a handheld PC with a very console-like OS.
You can play Switch games on Steam Deck! At least I do. Some play even better than on Switch.
Existing owners can upgrade to the Switch 2 version for $10, gaining better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support.
I didn’t realize they had this option. As far as legal routes go, that’s not terrible (assuming there’s no weird downside, like no longer being able to play the original on the switch 1). Free would be better, of course, but $10 certainly beats paying $90 just to play the improved version on switch 2.
It’s basically the PS4 to PS5 $10 upgrade thing. The difference is that Nintendo isn’t dropping the price of their 8 year old game, unlike what the rest of the industry does. So it’s $60 BotW + $20 DLC + $10 Switch 2 upgrade = $90. Absolutely ridiculous.
The upgrade pack is also free for Expansion Pack tier switch online subscribers from what I’ve heard at least for botw/totk. So if youre already on one of those for N64/GBA/Genesis/GameCube then it’s no extra cost
They’d make a lot more money if they priced it at the 20 - 40 range
They really wouldn’t. They would have to triple or quadruple sales to take that sort of a hit. As it stands it’s one of the best selling games of all time already, basically everyone interested in it already owns it.
Financially, they made the right decision. As annoying as it is from the consumer side.
i’m interested in it. i don’t own it.
That assumes people actually buy it though. Everyone already has this game, so I would expect most of the sales to come from the upgrade pack and not the $90 switch 2 edition. Nintendo usually makes bank by selling old games at full price with a generational console gap.
Tons of the full price successful “remasters” on Switch were Wii games which people no longer used, and Wii U games which no one originally bought.
On the other hand, the last time I didn’t see Nintendo make bank on literally zero effort was never, so I’m not that hopeful that people won’t just shill out for this scam too.
If I were to buy a switch 2, I might consider a rebuy at 20-40, but I’ve already beaten it and I ain’t pain 90$ lmao
I guess that would be the case if you bought it, beat it and sold it, but most people in that scenario would already own it and then they would just buy the upgrade pack. This $90 option is only for people who don’t own the game in any form yet.
The idea that any significant contingent of people would not own it in any form, then suddenly want to play it on Switch 2 but would balk at the asking price seems unlikely, certainly not enough to cut the price in half.
If they wanted a cheaper option they could always just buy a used Switch copy and then just buy the upgrade pack. I would prefer cheaper Nintendo games too but the reality is this won’t cost them that many sales.
I bought it second hand. Nintendo got $0 from the sale. In fact, two thirds of our physical games have been purchased second hand.
You’re literally not their market. That’s why so much of what they focus on are digital only sales, consoles, deals and schemes. They want buy once at full price, never resell.
Kinda expected when you pull an CEO from EA
Even EA isn’t this greedy.
Hell EA is doing good now in some ways like open sourcing the command and conquer games. Maybe they got rid of their Shit executives to Ubisoft and Nintendo.
Yeah, they’ve been doing good work funding smaller teams too. Games like it takes two and split fiction are great lower budget experimental games.
I recently broke a decade plus boycott of EA products to purchase Split Fiction for full price. My friend asked me to play It Takes Two with him for free through friend pass and I was so impressed by it that I wanted to support the devs. Besides, the whole point of the boycott was to “vote with my wallet” and I want them to know that I want more games with that kind of quality made by teams that are (seemingly) happy to be doing what they do.
If they owned Mario and Zelda, you can bet your britches they would be.
Wow, I had actually never heard that Doug Bowser was formerly at EA. Ooof
I get that it’s more fun to point out his name, I’m just surprised I hadn’t seen the comment made before.
Yeah, you can really see the AAA cooperate enshitification taking hold.
The first and only console I bought was the original Wii. Games were expensive so I did not have many. I managed to install a few emulators and use it for older console emulation.
After some years they started pulling the plug on the online services. That’s when I decided I would never buy another console again. I will not feed any more walled gardens. I have more games than I can play on my PC, a lot of them are DRM free.
that’s gunna be a lot of sad kids on Christmas when the great depression 2 has settled in
My ol’ good Switch 1 will keep rocking my TV set until it breaks apart. I never asked for a Switch 2 anyway.
I have the Wii U version, and I don’t plan to replay it… on any console.
Everybody RRRREEEEEEEEEE’s about Nintendo, but Kingdom come deliverance II released at $90 for the base game and I fucking LOVE Kingdom come deliverance, I wasn’t paying that shit. 2 months later, I got the gold edition or whatever for $80. (PS5) I am very happy with the purchase. Looking forward for the DLC lol.
I mean one of those is a new game, the other is an 8 year old game, I think that at that point complaining about it being 90$ is valid.
Complaining about Nintendo charging $90 for a Wii U game is absolutely valid
Good point. Its the first time I’ve paid that much. And I wouldn’t have done it if it wasn’t KCD2 lol.
What? KCD2 60 USD for the base game on release for PC and 70 USD for consoles (console tax).
https://steamdb.info/app/1771300/
If you paid 90 bucks for the base game, you definitely did it wrong.
Honestly… Piss off with that Nintendo.
So sounds like a public library check out.
