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The U.S. expects Ukraine’s response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios.
Why it matters: The one-page document the U.S. presented Ukrainian officials in Paris last week describes this as Trump’s “final offer.” The White House insists it’s ready to walk away if the parties don’t make a deal soon.
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HA. NOPE. Back to the 2013 borders. Period. Plus it’s not up to the US. It’s up to the country being invaded.
Due to our administration we are 100% going to abandon them, so this is worse than nothing. It’s the exact same result if Russia wins the war, plus all the lives and money and devastation spent.
Not quite, if they have a security guarantee, then they have political independence from Moscow
That’s assuming the country providing the “security guarantee” will actually do what they say they will when worse comes to worst. These days, that’s a BIG assumption.
They already have one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
Offering another empty promise is unlikely to cause them to make concessions again
This week’s final offer isn’t very good. I’ll wait for next week’s final offer, or the one after that.
Looks like Russia will have to throw another several hundred thousand working age males into the meat-grinder, to maintain that few hundred square kms of dirt.
Putin: “It’s a sacrifice my billionaire narcissism is willing to make”
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Erm, people still work at 50.
Can’t be. At 50 aren’t you drooling, barely able to walk, and ridiculously senile?
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‘working age males’
Older than a child, younger than someone requiring a care home?
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Furniture store diplomacy
Hey Trump, FUCK YOU!
Give them back Crimea, fuck back off to Russia and maybe we can talk about peace
Ukraine could offer to china, rare earth mining rights.
Ukraine could offer China? wtf does that even mean?
For China to pressure russia
The great dealmaker gives up on peace deal after failing to negotiate with Russia and just tells Ukraine to bend over…
dont fall for the americans telling you about a ratchet.there isnt one. they are all responsible.
“But look at the Republicans, not us, nevermind he and Elon have 50% approvalt rating nation wide, it’s the small minority reeeeee”
Both are less than 50% currently even by right wing outlet polling like Rasmussen.
Was Trump able to bully Zelensky when he wanted dirt on Bidens? Was he able to bully him with “good tv”? Were any lessons learned?
Fuck off Krasnov.
America and Trump can go fuck themselves. It’s not peace if Ukraine has to surrender the country to the aggressor! And if that’s not enough, America wants to rip everything of value away from Ukraine too.
Why the fuck is the US making offers to Ukraine for peace? Shouldn’t Russia be doing that?
He is maintaining a stupid stageplay for his stupid base whom he still needs to retain power, as they are basically an army he could mobilize if he has to.
Sure he would probably be happy and make sacks of cash if he got Ukraine to surrender, but nobody expects that to happen. Outside of said idiots who believe Trump to be Stupid-Jesus risen again. Most of them are too dim to understand what’s happening and delight in their own cognitive dissonance. They read a statement like this and go “YEAH BROTHA TELL THEM FREELOADERS TO STOP STEALING AMERICAN CASH” then tell all their friends and family and nonconsenting coworkers how Trump “resolved the ukraine war” like he promised.
If anyone thinks any part of that is hyperbolic, you’re not getting out enough. Ya’ll gotta understand that the quarter of America who worships this orange turd are cheering and partying all day, every day. They’re not worried, they’re not regretting shit. All of that is distraction and pandering. They believe themselves to be winning, and their leader controls the world’s most wealthy and powerful nation.
Trump surrendered the Second Cold War to Russia.
Russia has installed a puppet regime here.
Because the US has the most powerful military on the planet and Ukraine is dependent on it so they can continue fighting the war.
We’re not seeing any news coming out of Ukraine because they’re losing badly right now. It’s how propaganda works. Overplay your sides’ accomplishments while ignoring their failures. If we’re hearing radio silence from the news outlets that were eager to promote things like Ukraine’s “counteroffensive,” it’s because Ukraine is losing and the propaganda mills aren’t allowed to report on it.
Da comrade.
The Orange Jackass can go sit on a flagpole.
Oh no! Anyway…
Final offer of what? It’s a terrible offer. And walk away from making stupid suggestions? Sure, go ahead.
Art of the Squeal
Fart of the Seal
The implication is walking away all US military support, I believe.
USA losing all influence in six months. Excellent job republiQans, you’ve done more than even the worst predictions could have imagined.
Not like they were going to get any help from this administration anyway.
Ukraine can surrender to Russia without USA’s help. Trump deal is the same as surrendering, but where USA also gets a cut.
