Why yes, I was born in 1988 but luckily when I first started making usernames in middle school, I decided to use the random number 45 in them instead. Yup, good old 45, nothing awful or related to white supremacists associated with that number… Sigh.
I mean at least its when they lost.
There’s an orange fascist associated with that now
It took me a moment to realize it wasn’t about 1945
I stole this name from the b3ta front page, and honestly I’m incredibly lucky it gained an association with kittens and pornography.
It doesn’t help that prowe is an anagram for power.
Shit, hadn’t considered that either. Not a whole lot I can do about that either since it’s based on my name.
The pope just died on Hitler’s Birthday at the age of 88. COINCIDENCE!?
Also oh no, I just posted the 88th comment!
Hitler was born on the 20th though.
lol oh damn I thought he died on the 20th. But I guess it was technically the 21st.
“I was born in 1988, and made this account when I was 14” Born after 2000, frequently posts dogwhistles and bigoted stuff.
Cashier: That’ll be 11.88 Me: Whoa what the fuck
Luckily it wasn’t 3 more dollars.
My dad’s birthday is August 8th. He has used 88 in his email addresses since back in the old @aol.com days. I tried explaining to him that he probably shouldn’t but he’s loved the number 8 since he was a kid because of his birthday.
88 was a cool number, but then Nazis came and ruined it. It was the equivalent of drawing that S letter you all did in high school. Edgy cool shit. They ruined my birth year and back to the future, and the name of a band I played in when I was a teenager.
Also they are pieces of shit in every other aspect, of course, specially regarding, you know, humanity.
Wish them a happy birthday (with appropriate number) and see if they self-report.
You could make a kind of “community nazi index” by having a bot collect the usernames in threads and finding the ones with two numbers at the end. The really racist ones will have “88” statistically stick out.
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Unfortunately most people are completely clueless about dogwhistles.
Seconded, if I wasn’t married, interfaith I wouldn’t know even half the dog whistles.
Which is exactly why they’re called dog whistles. It’s so only certain people (the ones in the know) are able to find the true message. The entire point is to signal solidarity and find like-minded bigots, without exposing yourself. Because they know that if they just come out and blatantly say it, they’ll face a lot of backlash. So instead, they hide behind dog whistles.
True. I was born in 1988, I used to have 88 in a username until someone pointed it out to me.
Ngl I had no idea about 88 until now.
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People with 88 in their usernames are probably people who’ve been rocking the same username for 20+ years at this point. I think my username naming scheme hasn’t changed since I was single digits in age logging intk AIM and MSN Messenger
I dunno, if I had a username (I don’t care how old) and found out it had a racist dogwhistle, I’d change accounts.
Like how my fiance came home onr day and threw out his Punisher shirt because “asshole cops are co-opting the Punisher, even though they’re exactly whose asses the Punisher would be beating on!”
That’s how appropriation works though, by forcing out the people who used it in its original context.
However, I think Marvel redesigned the Punisher’s skull logo thing purely because of that. Those who use the old one are guaranteed to be asshole cop and trump supporters who completely missed the memo.
That’s how appropriation works though, by forcing out the people who used it in its original context.
I’d argue that by making it so only the people who use dogwhistles use it, it now becomes a fog horn. No one in 1910 cared about a Hindu symbol for peace. People cared a lot by the end of 1945.
Very good point.
Mine is old enough to drink (21+ in USA)…
Wait are we supposed to ask if you are dog whistling or not? Now I don’t know.
I made mine long before learning about the connection between “88” and the Nazis, and at this point, anyone who sees my username and immediately jumps to “nazi” is a certified moron.
Now I will never look at my Helly Hansen rain jacket the same way again.
There was a time around the 00s in Germany where they were used as a dogwhistle, at least that was the story going around back then. Anyone wearing one of these was being looked upon with a lot of suspicion by the general youth
Don’t ask what Hugo Boss was doing during the Second World War in Germany
What’s wrong with Humbert Humbert? A man with a poetic sould who did nothing wrong except shooting that guy (no, really, is HH a thing outside of Lolita?)
Derek Dash. Derek, the name, suprisingly peaked in popularity (in the US) around the 80s so according to my calculations, you were born then.
Also, advertising concrete details about yourself in the most public field of a user profile
Chinese never cared, 88 is “double prosperity” to us chinese and it will never change. Western gatekeeping is annoying as heck.
It’s not gate keeping if it’s symbolic as hate to people here. That’s neat for you, assuming you’re really chinese. But the sincerity and severity of 88 as a symbol of hate, has to be taken as that’s the most likely, as it’s far more dangerous to dismiss hate as potentially innocent, than the opposite. And I suspect that you’re not arguing this point at face value.
If it’s a hate symbol there, then keep it there. More often than not american treat the internet as “theirs”, then judge everyone like an american. The comment on the pic did not differentiate anything, so i might as well judge it as is.
assuming you’re really chinese
as it’s far more dangerous to dismiss hate as potentially innocent, than the opposite.
Even you’re doing exactly that, assuming everyone is american/westerner unless proven otherwise.
That’s fair to a point, but since “our” “values” have spread so thoroughly in the internet, since this was where the boom came from. Racist Americans took to the internet very early to spread hate and symbolism.
As an American, I admit ignorance that 88 was a special number in Chinese. However, you have to understand that I would have to actively seek out that information to know it before you said that. Which is awesome and why were all here, right? That said, our culture is so prevalent on the internet and otherwise that I suspect you did know that 88 was a number for Nazis. I mean, the fact that you know English and I don’t know Chinese is part of a testament to that, well that and our failing educational system.
I do appreciate you teaching me about another culture.
I appreciate your civility in this discussion, i’m just annoyed that it’s what it is. Same for the use of swastika by asian culture. Fuck nazi though.
Always fuck Nazis and whatever other names they try to hide behind.
Yeah it’s a shame that “it is what it is” is the answer at the moment. We’d all rather it be different and hope that soon, it will be. But we’ve got a lot of work to do on our end.
Right, everything is somehow going to offend someone. Honestly. I had no idea of 88 being offensive until a few years ago, and it was on Reddit/Lemmy echo chambers; I have never heard or seen 88 being used intentionally offensively IRL; I have never been made aware of it, anyway.
Yes, I’ve used 88. I was born in 88.
I think in Greek culture it’s offensive to “show your palms”/an open hand, they treat it like a middle finger. Americans accidentally do that all the time.
I want to say maybe 8 years ago now they tried to sound the alarm about the OK symbol (👌) being a dogwhistle for “White Power”, and they listed off a number of weak examples. And I think everyone collectively said shut the fuck up, nobody cares, the OK symbol is used everywhere & the great majority of people don’t use it to express “White Power”. How ridiculous.
Don’t ask for permission to do painfully basic things. They’ll take everything from you, they’ll take your 88s, your OK symbols, and idk anything else they feel like being offended about. I hear Nazis breathe oxygen & drink water. Damn, guess we need to stop that, too. Or maybe, just maybe…just don’t be a Nazi & live your life. ¯\(°_o)/¯
88 is not offensive. It’s a nazi dogwhistle. There’s a big difference.
I also assure you that Americans don’t do the Greek “mountza” all the time.
That’s fine. In the US, it’s a dog whistle for Nazis. It’s not gatekeeping when it is simply factual. There’s a giant facility off the highway here in Nebraska called “Tactical 88” (with a logo that’s quite literally based on a nazi symbol: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsadler) that is 100% a nazi training facility. They even have a giant billboard that says “free AR-15 for signing up”.
Fascists love to use it all over the place. So here, in this context, it has a very specific meaning. And when we are dealing with a fascist takeover of our goddamn country, we have every fucking right to tell Nazis using nazi dog whistles to fuck off.
Chinese folks live in the US too. There’s a popular Asian-american music label called 88 rising.
I will continue to see and use 88 at weddings and assume wealth and fortune. If I’m in a room with white guys and guns I’ll see 88 as dangerous.
Probably because I’m older but I would just default to thinking that if I saw it
Who CARES if they want to Support Hitler? TRUE ANTI SEMETISM is when you Support CHILDREN BEING BOMBED IN SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS!
Uh… no. Not even close.
I understand where that sentiment comes from, but “antisemitism” is prejudice and hostility targeted specifically at Jewish people. Semites or the Semitic people are an ethnic group originating from the Middle East that includes Jews, Arabs, and Akkadians. Antisemitism is the (false) belief that those “Semitic races” are inferior to the “Aryan race” based on pseudoscience, racism, and religious discrimination.
Unfortunately, 1988 was a bumper year for future fascist fucks.
I’m not going to lie. One of my old reddit accounts had 88 in its username. Not because for malicious reasons though. It was a random number I came up with since the username I wanted was already taken. I got banned from r/comicbooks for that despite proof that I was NOT connected with any racist content.
You can’t really prove you’re not secretly pro-Hitler though. It’s simply not possible for anyone to do.
Sounds like something someone secretly pro-hitler would say.
I caught a ban from there for talking about alien ethnicity.
There’s some cover depicting the 616 Justice League opposite their equivalents from another Earth. The Doylist view is: how these characters look is arbitrary. All changes are an excuse for costume edits and better representation. But in-universe, these are not characters. They’re people with backstories. And some of those backstories make the changes a head-scratcher. Green Lantern, nah, he’s just a guy. Could be anyone. Wonder Woman, Themyscira’s basically Cyprus, of course Amazons could look African.
But Superman’s a fucking alien. Most aliens do not look human. Mars is right next door, and the Manhunter is green. Matching a single ethnic group on Earth is already a miraculous coincidence. Does Krypton fit our species’s entire spectrum? Are there exceptions? Could Supergirl have shown up colored blue, and gone “wow, hair can be red?” An alternative is that their universe’s Krypton is an entirely different monoculture - and if nothing else changed, that might raise some questions for Ma & Pa Kent.
Meanwhile: they left Batman almost identical. Even though Bruce Wayne is just a product of his rich parents.
But yeah, I think those mods are just touchy. God forbid you ask follow-up questions.
