Latino men… You know he fucking hates you, right? Or at least, the base he panders to does.
I’m not convinced he has cares about anyone. Looks like black Americans are the smartest men here.
Indeed, remember this ladies.
Hey hey hey, some of the white dudes in coastal states might be ok too!
Disappointed by my fellow Latino men
Maybe but we sort of hate ourselves so it seems fitting
No. If your president says: “please, think on asian people… think on asian people more!”, asians will love him. American leftists are American blackist (I expect that it doesn’t sound bad in english). If I am not black guy, I wouldn’t vote the leftists… but with Trump in right wing, I will think seriously in a suicide in elections day (take it like a joke).
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He’s literally, and pretty much exclusively, conducting raids to target and deport Latinos. Seems pretty fucking apparent
If you’re opinion is that he’s a good leader, or should have any power, put your fucking money where your mouth is and go join the ice raids. With any luck, you’ll be one that catches a bullet.
People believe some retarded fucking shit. We have literal nazis making a resurgence
That’s really racist of you. Most Latinos are not illegal immigrants. A lot of illegal immigrants aren’t Latino.
You really need to get those harmful stereotypes out of your mind.
Edit: not to mention that illegal immigrants can’t vote. This is a measure of voters. There aren’t any illegal immigrants in this poll.
Commenter didn’t say anything about illegal immigrants.
Trump hates illegal immigrants, not Latinos. Y’all already know this, it’s common knowledge.
Right, which is why he deported all those people here legally. Because of illegals.
It’s common knowledge that Trump hates all nonwhites.
I’d expand it further to say that he hates all non-Trumps.
Oh he definitely hates Eric.
I’m pretty sure Trump/MAGA hate all PoC.
Well, that’s bullshit. There are several groups of white, European immigrants that have non-trivial illegal populations, but none of those have been raided. Only black and Latino.
He’s only deporting irish (in relatively tiny numbers) to support his racist genocide of palestinians.
How on Earth would that even work? Every Irish guy deported is another Palestinian dead?
Trump hates everyone. Including legal Latinos. Including legal white poor men. Recently it also includes legal white men who are billionaires.
Except Putin. And Kim. So it’s not the money or migration status or skin color. It’s about power.
The people being deported are farm hands and meat packers… people who pay taxes. Unlike billionaires.
So you’re saying they stole SSNs to pay taxes? So they’re identity thieves too?
You don’t need to be a citizen to get an SSN. There’s also tons of scenarios where you can end up undocumented after obtaining an SSN.
Common scenario: USCIS granted you a SSN, but aren’t done processing your Asylum status (see - https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110211205 , https://assets.aila.org/files/21f06205-c2ce-4512-860c-f98dfc60d0cb/19091330.pdf?1697590715).
Another common scenario: visa expired (see - https://www.ssa.gov/number-card/request-number-first-time).
Fuck off, scumbag.
no, Trump hates latinos period
trump hates blacks the most, as evident of his father renting out to blacks and on trumps own relaity show, he complained why they have to let someone like omarosa win.
Fuck off, no one mentioned illegals. Just Latino men. He hates not white people. He hates white people, too, if they are poor. Or disagree. Or yadda yadda. You get the point? Fuck off with your pretend pearl clutching
Bait used to be believable smh.
All immigrants are illegal in the States tho?
I’m a white man in a rural area in the south. Black folks who don’t really know me often seem surprised when they hear me say something anti-Trump. And honestly, I understand completely.
Same, but what was really strange for me was hearing pro trump rhetoric come black men here.
Stupidity transcends all other qualities.
Same, same.
Do you have any insights on how that works? Is it just something rather gets passed down from parent to child? Because I would assume the education system would try to tilt everyone towards the Republican side there (I’m not from the US)
I have anecdotes, but no specific data or insights, I’m only speaking about my experience.
In some respects, politics is a lot like religion. Just like most Christians were raised in Christian families and most Muslims were raised in Muslim families, it seems like most Republicans were raised in conservative families while most Democrats were raised in liberal families. Obviously this isn’t a 100% one-to-one correlation, and there’s a lot of nuance as well as a plethora of exceptions.
As far as education, I only have my perspective of the school system I went to. Overall, I think that most of the teachers were very respectful and balanced whenever political ideology came up. As a kid I wouldn’t have noticed it, but by my teens I was pretty observant. There were definitely several notable exceptions, mostly conservative teachers showing bias and attempting to influence us, unprompted. I think the most “liberal” ideology I was exposed to was the one high school teacher who strongly advocated for LGBT folks, but that was generally in reaction to students’ homophobic actions or words. Overall, i would say that the education system pushed religious ideology more than political, but of course, it being the south, conservatism and Christianity are practically one in the same.
Thanks for the insights!
No fucking way this is real data. Dont believe everything you see on the internet people this is clearly bullshit. Trump won yes but no fucking way is this data legit. Its just hate spewing this post should be fucking dropped for false information. No way blue states had all white men voting Trump lol fuck off OP.
Did trump win?
I thought there was a court case about this now.
This is why ballots should be manually counted. Those machines were not tested.
Regardless I also agree there is trouble with this data as when you cast ballots giving nationality and gender isn’t done on a ballot from what I understood unless this is different in AmericaUS. There is polling which can reflect but if nothing else I’m now forever dubious about any system that isn’t counted manually offline now.
No Trump didn’t win. They stole the election just like they were screaming that they would. Here’s the data about the failed attempt in 2020 and the successful attempt in 2024. This is the foundation for a ton more cases.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta
First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link
Imagine being in this much denial about the reality of racist usa.
But on the other hand I would like to see a source. Edit: source fwiw.
That thread says they were created using this tool, but I see no way to isolate genders there: https://www.cookpolitical.com/swingometer/2024
It looks like someone isolated the different racial categories, then tacked on “men” for superior click-bait.
Electoral votes, not people votes. If you don’t know how that works, here’s the Wikipedia page.
Link to the data, a source of the infograph, or something that can get me to interpret what I’m actually looking at. I tried to figure out where it came from and can’t find it. I don’t see how a wiki link to “The Electoral College” even begins to explain this infograph, and I think it’s weird that you think it does.
Electoral votes are winner take all with the exception of Maine and Nebraska. With that in mind there should only be a maximum of 4 colors for all of these maps. Since they are using shades we are led to believe that it is a proportion of population. If it is in fact using electoral college votes than these maps highly manipulative.
The details are basically unreadable from how shitty this version of the infograph is. From what I can tell there’s 4 different legends that are unique to each map. The colors, at least according to what I can read on the legend, only convey what each state is named and how many electoral votes each state has. That may not be the case, but it’s impossible to tell since it’s basically unreadable. The legends also appear to be different on the last map than they are on the first 3 maps. Again, I can’t tell exactly because it’s basically unreadable on every map.
There’s no way to tell what the hell the data means other than someone pasting big bold titles. The fact that the titles don’t appear to be displayed consistently and they cut out a dropdown on the left seems weird as hell. I have no way of telling what those selections were even within the tool they were using. Which seems like an odd bit of information to exclude.
Which brings me back to the most important point, there’s no readable citation. All of these are cleared up with a citation to a source. The data could in fact be genuinely displaying what it’s made out to convey, but I can’t possibly tell that without looking at the source of the data, checking what/where the data came from, and then recreating these maps in whatever tool they used. A citation would at least be step 1 to make this infograph anything other than weird propaganda.
This. There is no shot that around 85% of white men votes Trump. Not a chance in hell.
Chart shows 60% not 85 for white men
I see upon zooming very far in that the pixelated bar seems to say electoral college but under it nearly unintelligibly it has the vote breakdown. Misleading.
It’s not misleading, that’s how the electoral college works lmao. 49% of votes could go to the second-place candidate and the first-place candidate could still win every single electoral vote. The system doesn’t care about people’s votes, only the electoral votes matter for presidential elections. The map shows exactly what it claims to show.
Shows the vote totals below the bar. Shows the electoral votes on the bar. Super pixelated and small. It’s misleading. I understand the electoral system you condescending twat.
Electoral college does that
Also no chance all black men voted blue either. Sexism is strong in this country, like really.fuckmorhering strong
Also no chance all black men voted blue either.
That’s not at all what this is saying.
Yeah but it is saying that literacy is a dying skill
Electoral votes, not people votes. If you don’t know how that works, here’s the Wikipedia page.
Who are you going to believe? The incessent liberal urge to accuse minorities of being bigoted, or your own, lying eyes?
None of this data is accurate. At all. This is sensationalist garbage.
Electoral votes, not people votes. If you don’t know how that works, here’s the Wikipedia page.
I’m sorry but, what the fuck is wrong with Latino men? Please explain this so my smooth ass European brain can understand!
highly religious
Highly patriarchal
Religious, macho, hatred of other-Latin (Mexicans, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, Domincans etc. have a lot of interrelational hatred), and I-got-mine-ing (pulling up the ladder once they got their citizenship).
I remember 2016 analysis. Texas promised a lot of wall construction jobs. Florida threatened Castro’s ghost was going be donated Miami by commie HRC and Biden in 2020. Latinos may be made to hate each other, by country of origin, or ladder being pulled out for those not here yet, for all I know.
By far the biggest indicator of Trump support/voting intentions is how much they consume “trans normalization outrage porn”. Trump’s baseless confidence that giving all of America to oligarchs will create more jobs can influence low information/analytical people as well.
I might have the wrong attribution, but I think it was Regan who said “Latino voters are Republicans who don’t know it yet.”
In 1998 Clinton’s secretary of state stent a SWAT team in to the house of some Cuban immigrants to kidnap a child who’s mother died getting him out of Cuba but because his dad was still in Cuba they figured the best way to solve the problem involved point guns at people. Since that event Latinos have voted almost exclusively for Republicans.
My only hope is if there is ever another election they will finally find someone else to hate more than Janet Reno.
What the flying fuck is wrong with Latinos?
When I was growing up in the 90s and 2000s, Latinos almost almost always voted democrat. What changed? How did they end up voting for the party that hates them the most?
Because the democrats made the mind-numbingly stupid decision to pivot right like they always do, this time on immigration. No more, “Building the wall is racist,” no more, “No one is illegal,” instead it was, “We’re the ones who are actually going to build the wall, Trump’s all talk.” To this end, they attempted to pass a bill that would have greatly expanded the president’s ability to crack down on immigrants.
They figured, as they always do, that everyone would simply fall in line behind them as the “lesser evil.” Instead, the result was that they undermined their argument that stricter immigration laws were grounded in racism (which they are, of course), and failed to distinguish themselves from the Republican position. Many Latinos have conservative positions on other issues, and, perceiving little significant difference between the two parties’ stances on immigration, they voted based on other, less important cultural issues where there was a meaningful difference. It’s worth noting that some people have the sentiment, “We came here legally so they can too,” and it was only when there was (correct) messaging that cracking down on undocumented immigrants was a slippery slope that would endanger legal immigrants that they were able to be persuaded to set aside other cultural issues. This messaging was abandoned because it was considered potentially alienating the the oh so precious (white) moderate Republicans, who also didn’t vote for them, because they’re nonexistent/unwinnable.
This is one of many, many examples of how moving towards the “center” can alienate voters and lose votes, especially when it involves acting against your constituents’ material interests.
Republicans and fascist strongmen appeal to machismo culture.
Most racist answer.
Latinos, especially first generation immigrants, trend strongly toward being staunchly religious and socially conservative. As such, they tend to think Republicans, who are also religious conservatives, will be on their side. There’s also a subset of legal immigrants who hate illegal immigrants. Add in that first generation immigrants often aren’t fluent in English yet and that creates a layer of information exchange that conservative news outlets can exploit; if you don’t translate the overtly racist crap the politicians say, you can make your audience rely on your white-washed commentary.
As for the folks who’s families have been in the US for generations and who grew up fully bilingual in English and Spanish, I’m honestly not sure.
I’d also add that for young men specifically, there is an onslaught of propaganda manipulating their sexual frustration and insecurities into hatred towards women. Trump offered these men a symbolic victory against a world in which they feel they will never succeed financially or sexually. Young men from immigrant families are particularly susceptible to this, since their families are generally more socially conservative and adhere to stricter gender stereotypes.
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They forgot they actually had to do things for the constituents.
There’s a coordinated effort to have pale skinned “latinos” identify as “white”. That’s the whole point of the term “latino” (as in the roman empire).
That’s wild
Non-black folk in the US—your reality has been propagandised
Propaganda works.
(Happy cake day)
Maybe the answer is only letting black men vote next time.
Or we could give their votes more power. Something like… each of their votes counts for 5/3 votes. I think that would be a fair compromise.
This is an excellent comment, got a solid chuckle out of me.
They missed out a whole lot of votes I think getting one is only fair.
Blacks/Asians - Harris wins
Latino - Trump wins
Largest Minority hurt by Trump - Latinos
The sad thing is I find it hard to believe many would vote any different today.
Many would
“I lost my job, I lost my wife, but I would vote for Trump again”
is the average response from people suffering
sometimes
It’s like you can almost see why certain people want to stop them from voting altogether at any cost.
It’s because they’re black and they want to return to a 1950’s America right?
All I see is one of the dumbest nations on the planet and a clear indication that things will continue to decline regardless of whether Donald Trump is wasting oxygen or not.
Dark future.
As an American who didn’t vote for fascism, I wish I could argue with you.
This is made with the Cook Swingometer as shown here.
This isn’t based on the actual election results of 2024, but projections based on 2020 election data.
So technically it’s probably even redder across the board, although if I remember exit polling, black man are still blue.
Still close tho, and very depressing.
So it’s not just bullshit, it’s outdated bullshit?
Really guys
This is lemmy cmon, at least put in the effort to question the data source
How many of you even had an option to fill in your race on your voter registration form? My state doesn’t even collect this info.
You think that it’s all just guesswork? Lmao good Satan please help me.
Its a shitpost that makes pearl-clutching liberals feel good.
Man = bad
White man = badder
🤷🏽♂️
Updoots to the left
Idk to me this is just “you’re all fucked except the west coast”
Your comment is hilarious because you think you’re being facetious but you are accurately observing reality. “Pearl clutching liberals” lmao I love traitor lunatic babbling nonsense.
Lol ok
Remember when Democrats came away from 2024 trying to blame black men?
Pepperidge Farms remembers…
They failed and blamed BIPOC for their loss while white men and women are why Trump won. And I’m a white dude who voted for Harris.
And then they claimed they support Black Lives Matter. Brown people matter if they win, they don’t care and will blame you if they lose.
Well, white people and apparently Latino men.
White men I can understand (if not agree with). But come on Latinos, you should be fucking better than this.
“Immigrants are poisoning the blood of America”
“Yeah, ese. You tell 'em.”
At least the ones in California appeared to know what was up.
I don’t live in the US but my country has also had a lot of immigration, invasions (true ones with armies, not mean ways to describe immigration), internal migrations from poorer parts of the country, you name it… Basically almost everyone is an immigrant in one way or another.
Well, our version of the far right has a lot of support from first or second generation immigrants.
One part of it is to pull the ladder up after ourselves and avoid others coming in and competing with us for the same jobs. Another part is that immigrants are on average poorer and angrier about the state of things, and for the populist far right, anger is fuel.
But also, Populists are becoming increasingly good at blurring the lines and making certain people feel included in the “in group” at election time, even if they are going to kick them in the head as soon as the ballots close. Case in point, AfD in Germany being led by a gay woman with an immigrant partner, “Brothers of Italy” being led by a single mom… Usha Vance is not an isolated edge case, she seems to be part of a playbook, whether she knows it or not.
“Latino” is a white supremacist term. It’s a denial of ancestry from america, africa, etc. in favor of “latin” culture aka european. White supremacy needs new blood to survive in USA. That’s the whole point of “latino”. That’s why “latinos” are encouraged to think they’re “white”. Meanwhile “whiteness” is nothing more than an oppressive system of racist control.
As a European I don’t get it anyway. Spanish people are white, but apparently are “people of colour” in the US.
I’m guessing it’s one of those “where you came from” things that Americans obsess over. Americans were even “racist” to the Italians and they’re pretty much the whitest country in Europe these days.
Whiteness is not an objective quality of people but a socially constructed category that expands or contracts depending on what is needed to maintain in group dominance.
When the in group is weak, you’ll see more people being considered “white,” and when it is strong, the tests will get stricter (looking not only at skin color, for example, but at ancestry). It’s really just a question of how confident racists are that they have sufficient clout to exclude a particular group without undermining their exclusion of other groups.
In 2020 black males had 80 Biden - 20 Trump and black females 90 Biden - 10 Trump. I’m generally color blind but it’s hard not to see how american black culture is so much more attentive to contemporary issues and somehow pop culture managed to twist “woke” as a bad word. crazy.
Pop culture didn’t do that, billionaires who own all media did that.
Agreed but it is them who influence the pop culture.
I’m getting quite old now it the anti woke progression was just wild to live through. Suddenly people started to realize that we have a lot of collective power and then everything turned around with anti-woke and anti-cancel-culture campaigns driven by afraid billionaires. I hope history doesn’t wash this away so I bare repeating.
Pretty sure the victims of fascism have always been good at recognizing fascism.
I’m not even black and I’m super proud of y’all for trying you god damned hardest to pull this shit off.
as a white guy to everyone else, I’m sorry the other white guys are so pathetic and weak they have to follow a conman that empowers them to be who they really are.
holy shit
