Not all religions and cultures believe in Hell as a discrete place; it’s actually a pretty uniquely Christian (okay and Zoroastrian, leave me alone) eschatological phenomenon. Most world religions really understand the afterlife as a constant for everyone, in the way that if you get on a train and leave one station, you have little choice but to go to the next station.
In the Bahá’í tradition, ‘Heaven’ and ‘Hell’ are considered poetic (or, if you’re into the Monist / Dualist discourse, ‘fictional elements’) descriptions of the state of any one person’s spirit upon arriving at the afterlife. ‘Hell’ is a state in the way having chronic pain is ‘being in hell.’
Let me assure you, there is no god, no devil, no heaven, no hell, no angels, no demons. You’re not alive, then atoms arrange themselves, you start being alive, a pattern is sustained, a pattern degrades, then you’re not alive again.
That’s all there is. It’s just you, me, and everyone else on this planet right now. There’s no invisible sky daddy checking his Rolodex to see if you’re spanking it to tranny porn.
That makes no sense, you’re not alive anymore to be judged. You are gone. If you imagine a dead person partying or having sex, does that do or change anything to the dead person? It’s over.
However if you meant like in a general sense like the way people judge Stalin or Hitler, fine, but they’re also gone.
I meant in the general sense. A bit like the Pratchett quote from /u/samus12345 in this thread. It wont matter to them personally but being thought of as the worst person alive is a pretty powerful judgement.
That way no god judgest you, but your peers who are alive. It’s a bit like Dawkins’ idea of memes, those who remain relevant the longest (e.g. Aristotle) are the greatest. Therefore those who are remebered as pricks get judged most harshly and people who are fondly remembered are the most blessed.
But thats my belief, and I wont really preach that as there is little to gain. There is a bit of karmic justice in it I think.
“No one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away, until the clock wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone’s life is only the core of their actual existence.”
This is assuming he went to heaven. He definitely did not. He’s rotting in hell with Hulk Hogan.
Notice Kirk isn’t on a cloud. He’s about to fall down to the deepest levels of Heck
Not all religions and cultures believe in Hell as a discrete place; it’s actually a pretty uniquely Christian (okay and Zoroastrian, leave me alone) eschatological phenomenon. Most world religions really understand the afterlife as a constant for everyone, in the way that if you get on a train and leave one station, you have little choice but to go to the next station.
In the Bahá’í tradition, ‘Heaven’ and ‘Hell’ are considered poetic (or, if you’re into the Monist / Dualist discourse, ‘fictional elements’) descriptions of the state of any one person’s spirit upon arriving at the afterlife. ‘Hell’ is a state in the way having chronic pain is ‘being in hell.’
This is assuming heaven and hell do exist. I’d be pretty ok if this person was just gone forever. I hope his name will fade out quickly.
I’m ready to forget him forever. Just like most of his lot.
Remember Rush Limbaugh? Yea, no one else does either. That’s exactly how Republicans go out. They’re quickly forgotten.
Let me assure you, there is no god, no devil, no heaven, no hell, no angels, no demons. You’re not alive, then atoms arrange themselves, you start being alive, a pattern is sustained, a pattern degrades, then you’re not alive again.
That’s all there is. It’s just you, me, and everyone else on this planet right now. There’s no invisible sky daddy checking his Rolodex to see if you’re spanking it to tranny porn.
I don’t believe that either. I personally believe that one’s memory and how it lives on in other people is our final judgement.
That makes no sense, you’re not alive anymore to be judged. You are gone. If you imagine a dead person partying or having sex, does that do or change anything to the dead person? It’s over.
However if you meant like in a general sense like the way people judge Stalin or Hitler, fine, but they’re also gone.
I meant in the general sense. A bit like the Pratchett quote from /u/samus12345 in this thread. It wont matter to them personally but being thought of as the worst person alive is a pretty powerful judgement.
That way no god judgest you, but your peers who are alive. It’s a bit like Dawkins’ idea of memes, those who remain relevant the longest (e.g. Aristotle) are the greatest. Therefore those who are remebered as pricks get judged most harshly and people who are fondly remembered are the most blessed.
But thats my belief, and I wont really preach that as there is little to gain. There is a bit of karmic justice in it I think.
Hm, I can see that.
“No one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away, until the clock wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone’s life is only the core of their actual existence.”
― Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man
i mean why would they be checking their rolodex when they could be jorglin it
I assume that’s why he created porn
Yeah they should be yelling from the clouds while he gets pulled to hell